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re: Great video from former Chief Scientist at Pfizer explaining the vaccines
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:59 pm to stickly
Posted on 5/24/21 at 6:59 pm to stickly
quote:FALSE!
designed to integrate with your DNA to create resistance
quote:That "particular threat" would be the SARS-CoV-2 or CV19 virus, correct?
resistance to a particular version of a particular threat
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Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:06 pm to stickly
quote:FALSE!
it was specifically small amounts of live virus
Inactivated or killed vaccines play a very prominent role. Subunit and conjugate vaccines are another category. They use "pieces" of a virus to elicit an immune response.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:06 pm to NC_Tigah
Yea. Not *FALSE!*. Anyhoo,...
Yes, that is correct, what they are selling (Moderna, Pfizer, et al...) is a specific cure to a specific disease (covid 19, CoV-2, CV-19). So why is their *cure* so weak and ineffective in comparison to actual vaccines? A REAL vaccine does not need *boosters* every six months..
Anyway, the entire proposition of the pharma companies makes sense if they just say "btw, this not a real vaccine" but that's not what they are doing. What they are saying is that "we are experimenting on you and we have not figured out how any of this actually works yet. But just trust us...".
Yea. frick that. I worked in pharma long enough to know that the money is far more important than anything else.
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That "particular threat" would be the SARS-CoV-2 or CV19 virus, correct?
Yes, that is correct, what they are selling (Moderna, Pfizer, et al...) is a specific cure to a specific disease (covid 19, CoV-2, CV-19). So why is their *cure* so weak and ineffective in comparison to actual vaccines? A REAL vaccine does not need *boosters* every six months..
Anyway, the entire proposition of the pharma companies makes sense if they just say "btw, this not a real vaccine" but that's not what they are doing. What they are saying is that "we are experimenting on you and we have not figured out how any of this actually works yet. But just trust us...".
Yea. frick that. I worked in pharma long enough to know that the money is far more important than anything else.
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:09 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
FALSE!
Inactivated or killed vaccines play a very prominent role. Subunit and conjugate vaccines are another category. They use "pieces" of a virus to elicit an immune response.
I appreciate that you are bringing those up but that is not what the current covid vaccines are either. Stop moving the ball Lucy. Live vaccine, dead vaccine, vaccine shards/particles, etc... None of that is what the current covid vaccines are. The current covid vaccines are experimental alteration technologies that have no real experimentation, testing, or long term studies.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:14 pm to stickly
quote:Yes FALSE!
Yea. Not *FALSE!*. Anyhoo,...
CV19 mRNA vaccines have not one damn thing to do with DNA
... unless you are extrapolating all the way to the body's immune response induced by CV19 S protein, which you aren't.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:18 pm to NC_Tigah
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... unless you are extrapolating all the way to the body's immune response induced by CV19 S protein, which you aren't.
I am extrapolating all the way to the worst case scenario. If there was testing we would know but in lieu of that the worst case scenario is all any of us have to work with.
Now if there had been ANY testing at all I could be watching TV right now but instead I have to be the only person here using common sense.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:19 pm to stickly
quote:First off, that is EXACTLY what some of the current covid vaccines are. Secondly, the mRNA versions simply induce the body to manufacture CV19 "shards/particles" itself, generating far more "shards/particles" than would be reasonably injectable in subunit, recombinant, polysaccharide, or conjugate vaccines.
Live vaccine, dead vaccine, vaccine shards/particles, etc... None of that is what the current covid vaccines are.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:23 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
First off, that is EXACTLY what some of the current covid vaccines are. Secondly, the mRNA versions simply induce the body to manufacture CV19 "shards/particles" itself, generating far more "shards/particles" than would be reasonably injectable in subunit, recombinant, polysaccharide, or conjugate vaccines.
Injecting actual *shards, particles* of a virus is a different proposition than hijacking a human body's own systems to produce *shards and particles*. To act like this is inconsequential in the scope of the lack of long term testing and studies is ridiculous. Just stop. Do you work for Pfizer?
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:30 pm to stickly
quote:At this stage you should really just stop. You have no clue regarding what I just explained to you about DNA, nor are you making an effort to understand.
I am extrapolating all the way to the worst case scenario. If there was testing we would know but in lieu of that the worst case scenario is all any of us have to work with.
You are Yeadon's target audience. It's sad really.
If you don't want the shot, don't get it. Pretty simple. Just don't cite charlatan concoctions as a basis.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:34 pm to stickly
quote:Explain SPECIFICALLY what body system is "hijacked". You already swung and missed badly with "DNA". Try again with "hijacked".
hijacking a human body's own systems to produce *shards and particles*
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:40 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Explain SPECIFICALLY what body system is "hijacked". You already swung and missed badly with "DNA". Try again with "hijacked".
A completely untested injection- which is not based upon existing and tested vaccine technologies that utilize live/dead virus) is being inserted into millions of peoples bodies in the hope that it will make those people’s bodies fight COVID while hoping that it does not create problems that are actually worse than COVID.
Anyway, it’s just you and me at this point. Want to meet at sonic?
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:57 pm to stickly
quote:False
A completely untested injection
quote:False
which is not based upon existing and tested vaccine technologies
quote:True
it will make those people’s bodies fight COVID
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:07 pm to NC_Tigah
I’m just bored at this point. I get it, you think the current COVID vaccines are wonderful. You think that mRNA vaccines are great ( they are the newest greatest tech, right!).
I don’t think anyone should take it unless they are elderly or have comorbities. There is no scientific reason for healthy people to take an untested *vaccine* that is potentially more dangerous than the disease itself.
The end.
I don’t think anyone should take it unless they are elderly or have comorbities. There is no scientific reason for healthy people to take an untested *vaccine* that is potentially more dangerous than the disease itself.
The end.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:11 pm to stickly
quote:
He pulls no punches
I'm giving him a listen but he hasn't really said anything of significance. It is more of a complaint about government.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:11 pm to stickly
quote:Then take the AZ Vax. It's been a couple of years in development, and is quite traditional.
I don’t think anyone should take it unless they are elderly or have comorbities. There is no scientific reason for healthy people to take an untested *vaccine* that is potentially more dangerous than the disease itself.
Or as I said, take none at all.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:17 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
as I said, take none at all.
Finally, we agree on something.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:40 pm to stickly
From your own definition a vaccine “provides immunity...” the covid shots do not provide immunity, thus the don’t meet your own definition of a vaccine. The cdc website even terms the covid shot as “protection” against the virus. Protection is not immunity.
All the other semantics are just distraction. These are “covid shots” comparable to “flu shots” in their ability to give “protection” but not “immunity.” The media’s attempts to recast the definitions of the terms used does not magically elevate the covid shot into a true vaccine.
All the other semantics are just distraction. These are “covid shots” comparable to “flu shots” in their ability to give “protection” but not “immunity.” The media’s attempts to recast the definitions of the terms used does not magically elevate the covid shot into a true vaccine.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:48 pm to Bulldogblitz
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That has not stopped a damn person on this board from giving expert advice in all of those topics.
It doesn’t take an expert to know how badly Fauci has lied to America.
I also remember Joe and his hoe disparaging the vaccines because of Trump’s involvement and then are begging Americans to get a vaccine. That’s some special kind of stupid.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:29 pm to stickly
quote:
Great video from former Chief Scientist at Pfizer explaining the vaccines
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WTF is this idiotic "vaccines that are not vaccines" meme?
A *vaccine* inserts a small amount of live virus in order to organically create antibodies that can then serve to proactively fight the real virus.
What the covid vaccines are doing is not that. They are experimental *pseudo vaccines* that are designed to integrate with your DNA to create resistance to a particular version of a particular threat. They have been fast-tracked, are totally experimental, have skipped every long term study that is typical in every other use-case (reproductive is particularly worrisome), and there is no accountability by the companies that have developed them. At all.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 10:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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His story only devolves more from there
Seems like yours is.
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