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re: Great message on abortion
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:43 am to MintBerry Crunch
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:43 am to MintBerry Crunch
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My 8 month old has neither reason nor reflection. Is she not a person?
Your 8 month old absolutely has reason or reflection. It may be extremely limited, but there would be a huge issue if it was void of these things.
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Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:50 am to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
I love these double posts lol.
All you did was try to turn this into a pedantic arguement because you realized your perspective was weak and you didn't have much left. Obviously I was not using the medical term, but you know that
Me referring to the medical community was not related to that at all, but was related to the three instances already provided, explained by doctors, who dismissed your insane arguement that there is no reason to ever abort for the mother's well being.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:51 am to Fells
quote:When you're on the OR table under anesthesia, complete unaware, unconscious do you have self? How about in an induced coma? How about GCS 6 post-concussive trauma?
If a fetus doesn't have a "self", there is nothing to "murder"
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:52 am to Fells
quote:A little responsibility on this side would help solve the abortion issue. But I know most have zero discipline and do not take responsibility for shite.
Trying to perpetuate suffering in people just because they want to have sex
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 6:54 am
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:52 am to Lickitty Split
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Everybody knows that it’s always been a fiction to consider a fetus a not a person.
Go ahead, define a person.
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Life begins at conception.
Plenty of things are alive and not a person.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:55 am to Fells
quote:Quote my ""arguement"" verbatim, dummy.
your insane arguement that there is no reason to ever abort for the mother's well being.
Post it here.
Then perhaps you'll learn something.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:56 am to NC_Tigah
Already answered this. Read bruh.
I appreciate that you recognized thar you weren't gonna come out of your pedantic angle on top so you're struggling to go on offense on another matter while completely ignoring my question :lol. Bad look tbh.
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John Locke already answered that. The coma, alzheimer's, drunk whatever may not be the same self anymore (or may not have a self anymore in case of the neverending coma) but since there was a self to begin with, they should reasonably be protected (or protected against in the case of the drunk) by law. The same cannot be said of a fetus.
I appreciate that you recognized thar you weren't gonna come out of your pedantic angle on top so you're struggling to go on offense on another matter while completely ignoring my question :lol. Bad look tbh.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 6:57 am to Fells
I find intriguing the fact many pro lifers would not hesitate to support funding a proxy war to kill Russians or support going to some 3rd world shite hole to stack bad guys like cord wood, for good reason of course.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:02 am to Fells
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John Locke already answered that. The coma, alzheimer's, drunk whatever may not be the same self anymore
quote:No it can't. Because in the former statement whereas "self" is gone, it may never return. In the latter, "self" will grow and blossom over a lifetime.
The same cannot be said of a fetus.
So, as you correctly put it, the same cannot be said of a fetus.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:08 am to Lou Pai
That’s it?
No wonder he’s losing. He didn’t say anything other than the democrats want up to birth abortions.
No wonder he’s losing. He didn’t say anything other than the democrats want up to birth abortions.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:11 am to NC_Tigah
Hence why I used the phrase "potential" earlier. disclaimer: this was not used in the medical sense of the word ;)
I've already dismissed your point.
I've already dismissed your point.
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Future/potential viability has nothing to do with a fetus not being a person before 30 weeks.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:19 am to gmac8604
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Why is it so hard to find a nominee against murder, homosexuality, ideologies based on “gender fluidity”, racism, and crime? I’ve found one and he wasn’t even allowed on the stage. This country has turned into a punchline. The further we move away from God’s Word, we will experience more stress and repercussions.
Probably bc of the whole separation of church and state thing the country was founded on
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:25 am to hubertcumberdale
Wait. You believe that our nation was founded on the concept of separation of church and state?
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:28 am to Dirk Dawgler
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Wait. You believe that our nation was founded on the concept of separation of church and state?
lmfao yes as part of the first amendment from Thomas Jefferson, a founding father
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:31 am to SDVTiger
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Ronbots arent serious about winning elections
No?
I believe DeSantis won his last election. I believe Trump lost his last election.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:33 am to hubertcumberdale
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Probably bc of the whole separation of church and state thing the country was founded on
So instead the state endorses a secular religion with values pretty much identical to Satanism.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:42 am to hubertcumberdale
The Establishment clause in the 1st only prohibits the government from establishing a state sanctioned religion. It does not impede the practice or acknowledgment or expressing of opinions on religions in the public sector. It only prohibits the passing of laws that would establish a national religion. It was of utmost importance for the people who had previously lived under the enjoining of church and state in England.
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:49 am to hubertcumberdale
Oh Lordy son! Just some friendly advice. When jumping into a conversation, be sure you have some knowledge about what you are discussing. Jefferson didn’t craft the Constitution. He wasn’t even at the Constitutional Convention. Madison, with the input of several committee members crafted the Constitution. Geesh man!
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:51 am to hubertcumberdale
LOL! You got me. I re-read your post where you cited Jefferson. I should have detected the feigned ignorance. You might be the new el gaucho!
Posted on 9/29/23 at 7:58 am to Fells
quote:So the termination of a post-traumatic GCS6 patient should be legal regardless of potential recovery. That is an interesting position.
Hence why I used the phrase "potential" earlier. disclaimer: this was not used in the medical sense of the word ;)
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