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Google is watching and listening

Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:16 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:16 am
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Google has patents for smart home devices that can eavesdrop on everything going on in our homes, all under the guise of sending us targeted ads for our "convenience."

What we’ve already given up in terms of privacy is nothing compared to what’s coming, PJ Media reported.

The patents, although not a guarantee the products will be developed, reveal that Google wants “sensors and cameras mounted in every room to follow us and analyze what we’re doing throughout our home,” the report states.

The cameras are so sensitive they can, for example, identify the image of a movie star on a resident’s t-shirt. That image can then be matched to the resident's internet browsing history. In turn, Google can send them an ad for a new movie with their favorite star.

Patent No. 10,114,351, states the company can "use smart-devices to monitor activities within a smart-device environment, report on these activities, and/or provide smart-device control based upon these activities.”

The patent also outlines how the internet giant wants to track people throughout the home, observing them in every room:

"By way of example, the high-power processor 20 and the low-power processor 22 may detect when a location (e.g., a house or room) is occupied (i.e., includes a presence of a human), up to and including whether it is occupied by a specific person or is occupied by a specific number of people (e.g., relative to one or more thresholds). In one embodiment, this detection can occur, e.g., by analyzing microphone signals, detecting user movements (e.g., in front of a device), detecting openings and closings of doors or garage doors, detecting wireless signals, detecting an internet protocol (IP) address of a received signal, detecting operation of one or more devices within a time window, or the like. Moreover, the high-power processor 20 and the low-power processor 22 may include image recognition technology to identify particular occupants or objects."

The patent was awarded to one of Google’s development teams associated with the Nest thermostat.

“While there are many good uses for adding sensors for home automation, the danger comes when they are being monitored and used by outside companies with an insatiable desire to know everything about us,” PJ Media noted.

The Atlantic explains it further:

"A second patent proposes a smart-home system that would help run the household, using sensors and cameras to restrict kids’ behavior. Parents could program a device to note if it overhears 'foul language' from children, scan internet usage for mature or objectionable content, or use 'occupancy sensors' to determine if certain areas of the house are accessed while they’re gone— for example, the liquor cabinet. The system could be set to 'change a smart lighting system color to red and flash the lights' as a warning to children or even power off lights and devices if they’re grounded."

The Atlantic also noted that Google can, even without cameras, use speakers to "recognize the noises you make as you move around the house."

"The auditory inferences are startling: Google’s smart-home system can infer if a household member is working from an audio signature of keyboard clicking, a desk chair moving, and/or papers shuffling," the Atlantic states. "Google can make inferences on your mood based on whether it hears raised voices or crying, on when you’re in the kitchen based on the sound of the fridge door opening, on your dental hygiene based on 'the sounds and/or images of teeth brushing.'"

Is any of this regulated? The short answer is no.

There are virtually no laws nor oversight to stop tech giants from peering deeply into our lives and then selling whatever they can off to the highest bidders.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:17 am to
If you put any of this in your home, you deserve what you get.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64092 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:19 am to
Yeah I’m good thanks.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9238 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:19 am to
Hell, your phone is listening to you. (OK Google) I just turned my wife's mic access off for a few programs on her phone because she'd get ads on web browsers of something we'd talk about in the house or in the car...happened multiple times
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:20 am to
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Is any of this regulated? The short answer is no.

There are virtually no laws nor oversight to stop tech giants from peering deeply into our lives and then selling whatever they can off to the highest bidders.


Welcome to capitalism. You gotta take the good with the bad
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 7:21 am
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:22 am to
Just wait, if the Prog's find a way to use this or get paid enough, they will have their way we will not only be required to put this tech in our home but be forced to pay for it too! Think the gov't cannot make us buy things we don't want or need under threat or penalty? There is a special seat in Hell waiting for Roberts and his kind.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14973 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:23 am to
Yeah, I recently saw a YouTube video about that thing called Alexia or whatever it is called and I can say I will never have one of those damn things in my house.

Of course they can spy on you through your smart phone also so privacy is getting harder to come by as we go along.

I know in many instances they are doing this so they can know what products you would be interested in buying but it just seems creepy as hell to me to want to spy on people's private lives so much.

It's seems similar to a peeping Tom to me and we used to frown on such things in my youth.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:23 am to
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If you put any of this in your home, you deserve what you get.

Android phone?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:27 am to
And so is Apple, Amazon and Microsoft.

I'm as comfortable with Google as with any of them. I don't get targeted ads (or certainly not many). I get they're gathering information. I don't know all the consequences of that, but you can live in the actual, real world or you can (try to) run from it.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3222 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:27 am to
This is why I just switched to the iPhone and proceeded not to download any Google apps or FB.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67656 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:28 am to
Ted Kaczynski is going to be proven right.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:28 am to
If you have a smartphone and/or a TV made after 2012, you have a tracking device, camera, and microphone listening/watching to you at all times.

Google is in this way more deeper than we know. They have been contracted by the government.

Might as well leverage it into useful products and a new way of life.

I used to be against this whole thing, and over the last 2 years I've just come to the realization that it's happening no matter what we do, and the only way to get off the grid for real is to trash all electronic devices, phones, and go live in the woods.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8330 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:29 am to
I wonder if they can tell which position you are doing “ it “ in by the sounds.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:30 am to
The choice is yours....Alexa, note to self, don’t by google camera system!
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48357 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:36 am to
It's essentially the telescreen from 1984
Posted by Dawginthewoods
Oconee National Forest
Member since Nov 2017
315 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:53 am to
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If you put any of this in your home

Brother everything that is being sold has this technology already built in to it. Unless you are just going old school, not many ways around it. I was told about how this was going to come to be 12-13 years ago by crazy guy that looked just like Silent Bob. Kinda worries me honestly.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:56 am to
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Hell, your phone is listening to you. (OK Google) I just turned my wife's mic access off for a few programs on her phone because she'd get ads on web browsers of something we'd talk about in the house or in the car...happened multiple times


Thats why on my android phone I have rooted it, turned developer mode on, gone in there with command line SDK tools and deleted a bunch of stuff including carrier IQ.

If you aren't capable of doing that, at the very least don't log on to Android with a google account, disable the Google apps, and get your apps from Aptoide.
This post was edited on 1/14/19 at 8:00 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9244 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 7:59 am to
The Amazon "Alexa" of whatever was just the beta testing of this crap.

I don't need "smart" items in my home. I'll stick with old-fashioned "dumb" items.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:08 am to
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Google is watching and listening

Hey Google -

........frick you.....this should cover your eyes and ears
Posted by SG_Geaux
1 Post
Member since Aug 2004
77929 posts
Posted on 1/14/19 at 8:09 am to
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This is why I just switched to the iPhone and proceeded not to download any Google apps or FB.




You are dreaming if you think Apple is not doing the same thing.
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