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re: George Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation from October 3, 1789

Posted on 11/23/23 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 5:03 pm to
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My ancestor was rode with and protected this President


My ancestor was one of his personal body guards during the Revolutionary War. Wonder if our forbears knew each other.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45822 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 5:10 pm to
The only God is the triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Son has been given the nations as a reward for His obedience unto death, and all nations and all peoples are obligated to worship Him and bed the knee to Him as Lord and God.
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:01 pm to
Amen!
Posted by gymnopedies13
Member since Nov 2023
256 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:07 pm to
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The only God is the triune God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Son has been given the nations as a reward for His obedience unto death, and all nations and all peoples are obligated to worship Him and bed the knee to Him as Lord and God.




As Americans, we don't have to believe that if we don't want to. It's in the Constitution that we don't have to pass any religious requirements to be Americans.
We don't have to bend our knee to anyone, if that's what we choose to do.
If it's the path you choose, it's OK with me if it's a way you think helps guide your life and it works for you. But it's not for everyone. And the Founding Fathers would have agreed with me on that.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:18 pm to
Interesting. My great grandfather x 5 on my mothers side was in Washington’s CIC Guard in 1780-81 and was present at Yorktown. The CIC guard was a select group of soldiers who served as his bodyguard and lent legitimacy to the General when domestic and foreign dignitaries visited him in the field. He was from Bedford, VA. and after the war he and 40 other veterans were issued a land grant in NE Georgia that became known as Woffords Station.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45822 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:31 pm to
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As Americans, we don't have to believe that if we don't want to. It's in the Constitution that we don't have to pass any religious requirements to be Americans.
As human beings, every single person is responsible to their creator to worship Him and His son, Jesus Christ, and to trust in His sacrifice for our sins or else receive God's wrath for our guilt. That applies equally to Americans and non-Americans alike. I've said nothing about a religious test to be an American.

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We don't have to bend our knee to anyone, if that's what we choose to do.
I'm not speaking as an American. I'm speaking as a Christian. If you do not submit yourself to the king, Jesus Christ, and put your trust in His death on the cross to pay the penalty your sins deserve, then you will suffer damnation for eternity. That applies to Americans, as well as non-Americans, as I said.

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If it's the path you choose, it's OK with me if it's a way you think helps guide your life and it works for you. But it's not for everyone. And the Founding Fathers would have agreed with me on that.
This is an issue of citizenship in Heaven, not in America. The Founding Fathers who were Christians certainly did agree with that, and those who didn't, are damned.

Again, I'm not talking about a religious test to be an American citizen. I'm talking about the necessity of every single human being to submit themselves to the king of creation, the Lord Jesus Christ, for everlasting life.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:38 pm to
I will have to look again. I think he was with the New jersey continental line. Was a body guard and given a parcel of land. Settled in Pa. Lenox Twp. My Dad's Mom's side.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3963 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:51 pm to
A lot of those young men were chosen, upon Washington’s order, by their regimental commander. He even had a spec that had to be met. The men had to be between 5’8” and 5’10” tall and clean cut in appearance. When he first ordered a guard unit be established, it was to be a unit of 50 with 4 men chosen from 12 regiments. The other two were selected by Washington to lead the unit. I am sure that the NJ Continental Line sent their required 4. My GF was selected from the VA. Continental Line.

LINK

Check out this site and see if you can finds yours on there. At the bottom below the known soldiers roster, there is a good informative summary of the history of the CIC guard.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32231 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:53 pm to
If any of y'all find a name and want to see if there is any correspondence between them and George here is a link to the Washington Papers archive


https://founders.archives.gov/search/Project%3A%22Washington%20Papers%22

Or if you just want to search and read about anything as it is really cool to be able to read what George was writing and having sent to him during the most significant time in our history

ETA Letter from George to William Fitzhugh

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To William Fitzhugh

Camp near Valley-forge June 8th[–18] 1778.

Dear Sir,

Your favor of the 8th past came duly to hand & the Letter inclosed in it for your Son safely delivered.1 I have given him a Cornacy in Baylors Regiment of light Dragoons, with which he seems to be pleased, and I have not a doubt will do honor to himself & the Corps, as he is spirited & possesses a fund of good sense, and good humour which cannot fail of rendering him agreeable to the Regiment he is going into; the Officers in which being all Gentlemen. He had hopes of providing such necessaries as he wanted, at Wilmington; but his success in the attempt I have not heard.

We have been in daily expectation of an evacuation of the City of Phila. why it has not taken place before this, as the Baggage—Stores—& every thing else belonging to the Enemy is on board Transports I cannot undertake to say unless the arrival of the long talked of Commissioners has been the cause. these Gentlemen have at length appeared in the characters of Lord Carlisle, Govr Johnston & Mr Willm Eden.

June 18th I had wrote thus far, and in my hurry of business laying the Letter aside forgot it, till this days post reminded me of it. The enemy evacuated the City of Phila. this Morning they have proceeded from the Ferry at the Town towards Haddenfield in the Jerseys distant ten or twelve Miles but whether they will cross through the Jerseys to Amboy or File off to the Right & meet their Shipping near Newcastle in the Delaware remains to be discovered—Six Brigades of our Troops have already Marched for the Jersey and the whole Army will be in motion at five Oclock in the Morning.

My hurry will only allow me time to add my Compliments to Mrs Fitzhugh & to assure you that I am with great truth and sincerity Dr Sir Yr Most Obt & Affe Ser.

Go: Washington

P.S. Yr Son was very well an hour ago.


This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:37 am to
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I guess ... it’s important for you to believe he was a Deist ....
Hardly, given that (as I said above) he was not remotely a prototypical Deist, but rather that his beliefs lay somewhere between Deism and Unitarianism.

Of course, the question is important only in the sense that it is helpful to understand the ACTUAL religious beliefs of a given Founder, when evaluating his writings and speeches REGARDING religion.

For instance, it is important to remember that John Adams was probably the most-religious of the Founders (“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other”). Adams was a devout Congregationalist. John Jay was a strong Calvinist, and Patrick Henry was as devout an Evangelical as anyone in the Colonies.

For some reason, it is important to you people that you believe that all of the Founders shared exactly your view of the divine. It is weird.
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