re: General Wesley Clark: The US will attack 7 countries in 5 years

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How long did it take trump to bomb 4 countries? Is he a neocon too?

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There is this little concept you might want to consider. Earlier events make consequences that must be dealt with.

Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and Cheney and Bush. It was very easy for them to commit our guys to a war and get many many of them killed for objectives that could not possibly benefit the United States.

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I bet you don't call out the president on here when he attacks, e. g., every morning on Twitter. You would not dare.

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How so?

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He is long since retired. As a captain. Maybe a major. Now he is just an old kook sitting around his home, embittered by what could have been.

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It's a joke!

You've never heard the joke? It's something you say when your are somewhere on active duty with a bunch of your peers, maybe sitting in the hot sun at the range or somewhere else. Somebody says, "man this sucks". Then when the complaining gets on your nerves you say, "Look if you don't like the Army then do your 20 years and get out."

You've probably heard this joke.

WP is completely nutty? The only view he has that's a little nutty is that he's too much invested in this issue that the USA's support of Israel is unwarranted and excessive. But his opinion on this issue is wrapped around his strong belief that US civilian politicians too often send our military into unnecessary wars and then botch things up. That's a legitimate opinion! Not nutty. USMC General Smedley Butler held the same opinion almost 100 years ago.

Also, WP is not embittered, IMHO. He had an outstanding career as a USMC enlisted man and officer. If you are right and he is embittered, I would counsel him to re-evaluate and recognize the merit of his own career, but I'm sure that he doesn't need me for that.

Anyway, that's my take. Your opinion has as much weight as mine -- you've been serving for many years.

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Yeah, really a nobody. He commanded NATO. "Wesley Kanne Clark, Sr. (born December 23, 1944) is a retired General of the United States Army. He graduated as valedictorian of the class of 1966 at West Point and was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford, where he obtained a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics. He later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a master's degree in military science. He spent 34 years in the U.S. Army, receiving many military decorations, several honorary knighthoods, and the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.

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WP, you're right. He has a very impressive resume and he's very accomplished. Maybe he does have opinions worth pondering.

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Why does an honest interpretation of events seem to scare you?

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What scared me about Wesley Clark is half my unit was deployed to Bosnia when this moron was wanting to be extremely aggressive when this was a peace keeping mission. I was in while this dipshit wanted to goose stomp all over eastern Europe to build a reputation for himself.

He complains about how we shouldn't have been in Iraq but we had no real reason to be in the Balkans. The man even said himself he didn't like the Bush admin because Condelezza Rice said there would not have been a Kosovo. He's a political opportunist and more of an interventionalist than your average neo-con.

Basically, he has been spending the past 13 years to make up for his failings during the Pristina Airport incident. He may have had an exemplary record prior to that but since then he's nothing but a hack. Yet idiots like you will trot this moron out whenever he opens up his pie hole.

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Yet idiots like you will trot this moron out whenever he opens up his pie hole.

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Clark has an impressive resume BUT I agree with you that his actual duty performance calls into question his wisdom and talent as a leader.

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What does that matter?

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Moron... so you're saying any good old boy that works his way through the ranks is praise worthy, regardless of the reality of his or her record?

By that definition, Hillary, "who worked her way through the ranks", is worthy of our praise and adoration.

Yeah, that flies right into the face of stupid.

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WhiskeyPapa

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liberal cuck

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keep that head buried in the sand Cleatus

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WP is completely nutty? The only view he has that's a little nutty is that he's too much invested in this issue that the USA's support of Israel is unwarranted and excessive. But his opinion on this issue is wrapped around his strong belief that US civilian politicians too often send our military into unnecessary wars and then botch things up. That's a legitimate opinion! Not nutty. USMC General Smedley Butler held the same opinion almost 100 years ago.

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Thanks for the backup.

General Butler said something like he spent most of his career as hired muscle for big business.

Our guys deployed to Iraq kinda fell into a similar boat. There was a tremendous amount of money at stake. But it is also clear to me now that the war mongers wanted to generate even more spending for the Defense Industry by destabilizing teh whole region.

And there was a tandem upside because wrecking Iraq was a big objective of Israel's.

Israel is the problem.

One thing you can find easily is that the Israelis tried to make peace with the Arabs for many years but they always drew back a nub. You can take that as a given as an American and still wonder why we should bankrupt our country for their ends. A United States senator recently said that we may not be able to afford Medicare any more.

How could something like that ever be said, let alone not start a national debate over our grand strategic goals?

What General Clark was saying back 2003-2007 about events right after 9/11. His former Army buddies were telling him that SecDef Rumsfeld was gearing up to attack Israel’s enemies. And now we can’t afford Medicare?

Everyone needs to be beating the Hell out of this drum.

And of course I remember all those fine young Americans who rallied to the Colors after 9/11 only to have their lives wasted on war that in no way served OUR national interests. Getting rid of Saddam was a big objective of Israel. Keeping a stable Iraq was in clearly in our best interests. One that the Reagan Administration worked toward. A stable Iraq is a counter-weight to both Iran and Saudi Arabia. That is – or was – leverage for us in the Great Game.

Leverage that was pissed away on behalf of the Jewish State.

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Really, really untalented, political (Clinton Machine) 4-star general. His book outlines, in somewhat oblivious terms, the comedy of errors that was his career.

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He was already a general when Slick Willie came on the scene. So - you are wrong.