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re: Future Attorney General...if we're lucky.

Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by NHTIGER
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:05 pm to
Just to give some additional context to the OP's Gowdy video clip.

That was from a joint Senate-House Republican press conference on Benghazi on October 30, 2013.

The six speakers, in order, were Sen. Graham, Sen. Ayotte, Rep. Chaffetz, Sen. McCain, Rep. Jim Jordan and Rep. Gowdy, followed by a Q-and A session.

It should be noted that these six individuals, along with Rep. Mike Rogers of Michigan and Buck McKeon of California have been the Big Eight on Benghazi from the very beginning.

None of those 8 legislators have any intention of giving up on Benghazi.

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Interestingly enough, she was one of the toughest AG's in NH history


so that's who she is . . .
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:17 pm to
LINK

I would like to see the left's reaction to violating UN resolutions, i.e. weapons run to syria rebels.
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Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:21 pm to
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Wow, he does not mess around.
When nothing is going to be done about a situation, and you know nothing is going to be done about a situation, it's real easy to pound your fist and act all political....errrr.....concerned.

'Murika
Posted by NHTIGER
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:31 pm to
That link says the resolution has 178 co-sponsors.

That number is now up to 187, including 6 additions in February.

The delay by Boehner is more likely due to a timing factor, rather than him guarding some big dark secret to protect the administration regarding arms to Syria.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:42 pm to
Well NH...Boehnor had best play that trump card pretty quick...or he won't be Speaker for the fireworks.

But yeah...they might be timing for the election; might pick up a handful of low-info Moderate votes.

Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:46 pm to
He nailed it. Hell, AG, I would vote for him as the next POTUS.
Posted by BayouBandit24
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:47 pm to
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24 so I consider anyone over 30 a cougar


Posted by skinny domino
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:51 pm to
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he rightfully called Pelosi "mind-numbingly stupid."
well, I'm sure he will score in the 99% politicalboard approval.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:52 pm to
She is isn't she?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Is what I love about him.

I'm not saying he is infallible and always correct.

BUT, he is fearless and uses plain language. I like the straightforwardness



It is rather refreshing to say the least.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:03 pm to
I love how , when Gowdy started asking questions, everyone in the background got this 'This gone be good!" smirk on their faces.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:06 pm to
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quote:
Wow, he does not mess around.

When nothing is going to be done about a situation, and you know nothing is going to be done about a situation, it's real easy to pound your fist and act all political....errrr.....concerned.

'Murika



So I guess you believe every single politician in Washington is bought and paid for?
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:26 pm to
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Well NH...Boehnor had best play that trump card pretty quick...or he won't be Speaker for the fireworks.

But yeah...they might be timing for the election



RCD, it isn't only a timing factor for the 2014 elections; it's one of practical maneuvering as well.

What many casual observers do not realize is that the House Select Committee, if approved by House vote, will have only 90 days from its first meeting to its final written report deadline. 90 days to consolidate the previous work of five separate House committees, and their staffs, and then add to that the long list of new and recalled witnesses, their testimonies, thousands of newly subpoenaed documents and having to leave no stone unturned along the way. 90 days from beginning to end.

That means they have to go into the process with as much information as they possibly can, information they are continuing to gather outside of the news media.

It's actually debatable whether the Republicans would benefit from having the final report made public before November 4th, depending upon how the results are reported in the MSM. The Dems will push the idea that the report must be a blockbuster to have any meaning and even with damning results, they will be prepared to downplay them. And anything short of a blockbuster conclusion will be trumpeted as a defeat for Congressional Republicans. On the flip side, extremely damning results against State and the White House would be a boost for Republicans in November.

It's a gamble. The best scenario for the Republicans would be to have televised Benghazi hearings going on as late as the first week of October, with the report being due by mid-November.

If Boehner conducts a vote now and the resolution passes, the committee could be named, the work begun, and the final report filed by mid-Summer. Considering such a Select House Committee will bring the official Benghazi investigation to a close, a mid-summer "conclusion" may not be the best play at all.

One last comment on the conspiracy theory angle regarding Boehner. The 188 Republicans signed on to the Resolution (187 + primary sponsor Wolf) represent about 135 members over and above the entire Tea Party Caucus. The great majority of "mainstream" Republican House members have signed on, minus most Committee Chairmen and the House leadership. Most voted for Boehner as Speaker and support him. They would not intentionally sabotage him by supporting the Resolution and putting him in a no-win public spotlight.

Boehner/Cantor, et al. can't come out and say that it's a matter of timing. Most of the co-sponsors aren't raising a fuss over the delay. They understand the situation. As the total number of co-sponsors continue to grow to 200+, Boehner will be able to bring it to a vote without anyone being able to accuse him of politicizing it beyond the Washington-usual partisan vote that will result.

They're playing out the string as strategically as they can.


Added note: another consideration is that if the Republicans truly believe that they will take the Senate in November, the House Republicans can continue to build their case through the individual committees until January 3rd, and then join with the new Senate to form a JOINT Senate/House Select Committee for Benghazi, which would garner far more media attention and wield more power with additional heavy hitters being part of the process.
This post was edited on 3/2/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:30 pm to
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NHTIGER


Solid post
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:44 pm to
Out of the park, NH. Thanks.

I just wonder about the gun-running thing; it may well be that more than just Obama and his circle was part of it (assuming that's what the big coverup is all about)...could be that some of the high-up hawkish Republican's were in too.

There is so much that has to be done on the low-down...that most any responsible politico...has to get their hands dirty.

Will be interesting to see if all the facts ever come out. Doubtful they will. Like with that 9-11 Commission...with Jamie Gorelic on it when she was the prime reason that the terrorists got past our security.

DC...covering each other's backs.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 2:45 pm to
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I love how , when Gowdy started asking questions, everyone in the background got this 'This gone be good!" smirk on their faces.


I noticed that as well.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:05 pm to
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I love how , when Gowdy started asking questions, everyone in the background got this 'This gone be good!" smirk on their faces.



I noticed that as well.


Completely agree here too.

If any of you have watched the hearings on a regular basis, you have also seen that Jim Jordan is a ferocious and focused interrogator as well. (He's the short guy standing behind Gowdy.) He can fit more questions into his 5-minute quota than any one I've seen in years of watching C-Span hearings, many of them requiring yes or no , no-horseshite-allowed , answers, with the first word of his next question coming within a millisecond of the answer to the previous question. If Gowdy and Jordan could get their 5 minutes each back to back, instead of having their momentum separated by 5 minutes of a Dem using 4 minutes to praise the witness and the last minute to ask a softball question, the witness would probably opt for being waterboarded.
Posted by NHTIGER
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 3:37 pm to
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I just wonder about the gun-running thing;


I usually downplay the guns to Syria aspect of Benghazi in my numerous posts on Benghazi for a very specific reason.

There is no doubt that a very large amount of MANPADS, among other weapons, were in fact shipped from the port of Benghazi to Turkey, then overland into Syria, the week before the attack on the SMC at Benghazi. That has been documented and confirmed numerous times by numerous sources. What is not known for sure is who actually sent the weapons and which anti-Assad group they were intended for. There are several possibilities here, in various combinations.

But I downplay it because it is not at the heart of the primary Benghazi investigation. While it is a very important issue in and of itself, it is nevertheless a peripheral issue, one that could result in a freestanding separate investigation.

There are three major "players" in the Benghazi failures: the State Dept., the White House and the Defense Dept. The CIA, again, is a peripheral "player" in terms of responsibility in the events of the attack. While there is no doubt that CIA defense contractors literally saved the day after the initial attack occurred, that is an after-the-attack role. The Benghazi investigations are about determining responsibility for the circumstances which led up to the United States being completely vulnerable to the attack that night.

At this time, it appears the "least guilty" of the three parties is the Defense Dept. Neither Panetta nor Dempsey impressed anyone with their indecision that night, but it was not a situation of their causing. They were unprepared and should be severely admonished for their lack of readiness, which resulted in their inability to respond in a timely and/or event-changing manner. Panetta is gone, of course, but Dempsey is still sitting in his Chairman's chair, never having meaningfully explained his failure to be ready for a Sept. 11th anniversary in a region that he knew was volatile.

As for the White House, their guilt rests in two areas: (1) Obama's indifference and and lack of direct communication with the primary players during the hours after the initial attack and (2) an indisputable belligerence in refuting the cause and source of the events on 9-11-12. A combination of naivete and politicking. Inexcusable and shallow.

The State Dept was the real villain of Benghazi.
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