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re: Fusion GPS goes on the record, wants transcripts released

Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:31 pm to
Would you support releasing the warrant? Or at the very least it being disclosed to members of Congress?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:32 pm to
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What came back shocked us. Mr. Steele’s sources in Russia (who were not paid) reported on an extensive — and now confirmed — effort by the Kremlin to help elect Mr. Trump president. Mr. Steele saw this as a crime in progress and decided he needed to report it to the F.B.I.


Entertain me for a second. What’s the crime here?

When British authorities helped Trump win the election was that also a crime? What about the Saudis helping Clinton? Was that a crime?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38285 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:34 pm to
Of course. I’ve said it before Trump should declassify the FISA warrant.

But to say that Trump has made anything political in this climate we suffer through today; is intellectually dishonest, Boosie.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:36 pm to
Why is it intellectually dishonest? Link me to another sitting President accusing his predecessor of using the national security apparatus to spy on him.

You can argue Trump was justified in making his accusations, but he very clearly is the one who accused the Obama administration of using the FISA Court for improper political purposes.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:37 pm to
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Why is it intellectually dishonest? Link me to another sitting President accusing his predecessor of using the national security apparatus to spy on him.


This is not an accusation but the truth as we have come to find out.

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accused


As a lawyer; you know what this word means.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:39 pm to
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It is time to stop chasing rabbits. The public still has much to learn about a man with the most troubling business past of any United States president. Congress should release transcripts of our firm’s testimony, so that the American people can learn the truth about our work and most important, what happened to our democracy.
Congress has seen enough to tie the DNC/HRC on BS oppo research that caused a FISA application or two, and or a special council chasing it's tail.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80258 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:39 pm to
Not sure how your reply is germane to my post.

How is it intellectually dishonest to say Trump accused the Obama administration of improperly using the FISA Court to spy on him? He fricking tweeted it
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62443 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:40 pm to
Yeah, Obama spied on him, his people unmasked his transition team. These are facts, as we know them. Was their good reason? If it was this Dossier, the answer seems to be no...,
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:40 pm to
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Link me to another sitting President accusing his predecessor of using the national security apparatus to spy on him


When have we had a president as dirty as obama ?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80258 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:41 pm to
Then release the warrant and prove it.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38285 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:41 pm to
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How is it intellectually dishonest to say Trump accused the Obama administration of improperly using the FISA Court to spy on him? He fricking tweeted it


Calm down. Reread my post. This is NOT what I called you intellectually dishonest for. Do you bill by the hour?
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:41 pm to
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What’s the crime here?


It's not clear to me what this is in reference to. Also, Steele is a Brit so who knows how he evaluated it.

Steele would want to alert the FBI to any potential counterintelligence threats though. We still have our allies thankfully.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118823 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:42 pm to
If Trump declassified the FISA warrant the entire left and NeverTrumpers would be apoplectic about obstruction of justice.

The info will eventually come out. Sorry it’s not on your terms.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:43 pm to
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alert the FBI to any potential counterintelligence threats though


Like the Secretary is State’s emails on an unsecured server?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80258 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:44 pm to
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But to say that Trump has made anything political in this climate we suffer through today; is intellectually dishonest, Boosie.


Trump is the one who accused the Obama administration of using the FISA Court improperly. That’s not even really debatable being that he tweeted it.

I’m still not sure what I’m being intellectually dishonest about. Ultimately not a big deal, though. We both agree we’d all be better served if the warrant was released/reviewed
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23191 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:45 pm to
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Then release the warrant and prove it.


Prove what?

We know the administration spied on trump, which validates his claim. Now we're just curious as to the level of sinister in the motives.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:45 pm to
Both spurred counterintelligence investigations.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38285 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:46 pm to
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Trump is the one who accused the Obama administration of using the FISA Court improperly. That’s not even really debatable being that he tweeted it.


You keep going back to this and I don’t know why.

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I’m still not sure what I’m being intellectually dishonest about


Don’t know if I really care or am even surprised.

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We both agree we’d all be better served if the warrant was released/reviewed


Agreed.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80258 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:46 pm to
I’m ok with it not being released while the SC investigation is going on, but it needs to be either addressed in the S.C. report or reviewed by members of Congress.

Trump’s accusations are incredibly serious and should not be taken lightly.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48929 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 9:46 pm to
Completely unhinged is not a good look for you
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