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Funny Gun Control/Ownership Chart

Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:13 am
Stolen from the OT as I think it will get some play over here...

Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:15 am to
Been posted before, but always enjoy seeing it come up again...
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:24 am to
I was going to make a post about this when I got some time later. I don't really think it has much to do about gun ownership,

Houston had a ton of guns post Katrina and that didn't help. Houston is major hub for international trafficking so it's not like criminal eliminate isn't there. It really could just be that it's a fairly peaceful time between gangs in Houston while Chicago is in the opposite. My theory is cartels have learned shite where they eat.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:25 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:28 am to
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My theory is cartels have learned shite where they eat.

there are reports the reason why Chicago has become Chiraq is due to turf wars due to the Mexican cartels

Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:30 am to
Objective conclusion: murderers and likely criminals in general will use guns to commit crimes regardless of laws against guns which leave victims defenseless.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:31 am to
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there are reports the reason why Chicago has become Chiraq is due to turf wars due to the Mexican cartels


I meant Houston

Houston has become too important for trafficking and I assume money laundering to be fighting over corners. Sort of taking the stringer bell/the Greek approach to the drug business. It's just a hypothesis, I plan to look this up more when I get time this afternoon.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 8:52 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:33 am to
"Cold weather causes murder"

Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:39 am to
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"Cold weather causes murder"


Thats really the only reason I posted it... That brought the LOL
Posted by JakeRyan
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:56 am to
Strict gun laws embolden criminals. Easy pickings with less threat of an armed victim.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:17 am to
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Strict gun laws embolden criminals. Easy pickings with less threat of an armed victim.


Let's set this aside, for a moment. Turning instead to the overwhelming number of murders in Chiraq being black teenager against black teenager, in many cases both of them illegally armed. Or are bystander casualties of these firefights.

Even if we take out the "emboldening criminals" element (which I agree is a factor is some crime and rates of crime, generally) - this graph at least flies in the face of the left's argument that more guns = more crime. It strongly supports a conclusion, as many of have been saying for decades, that lawfully owned guns are a deterrent to crime, or at worse, do not contribute to a violent crime rate. There are places with few guns, and little crime. There are places with many guns and much crime (e.g. Baton Rouge and New Orleans), but there are also cites with few legal guns, and a high violent crime rate.

One has little to do with the other.
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 12:21 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:24 am to
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Cold weather causes murder
Even that's ironic because in cold-weather cities, more murders are committed during the warm months than during the cold months. When that first spring weekend comes around, Chicago PD has to be uber-staffed because of the inevitable spike in homicides that happen when people finally come out to play.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:28 am to
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Even that's ironic because in cold-weather cities, more murders are committed during the warm months than during the cold months. When that first spring weekend comes around, Chicago PD has to be uber-staffed because of the inevitable spike in homicides that happen when people finally come out to play.



Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:31 am to
Let's add some more information, from another city in a state that has, since 1998, become one of the strictest gun control states..

quote:

IN 1998, Massachusetts passed what was hailed as the toughest gun-control legislation in the country. Among other stringencies, it banned semiautomatic “assault” weapons, imposed strict new licensing rules, prohibited anyone convicted of a violent crime or drug trafficking from ever carrying or owning a gun, and enacted severe penalties for storing guns unlocked.


quote:

Since 1998, gun crime in Massachusetts has gotten worse, not better. In 2011, Massachusetts recorded 122 murders committed with firearms, the Globe reported this month — “a striking increase from the 65 in 1998.” Other crimes rose too. Between 1998 and 2011, robbery with firearms climbed 20.7 percent. Aggravated assaults jumped 26.7 percent.


Meanwhile.. nationwide, there was a 39% drop in murders with firearms.

quote:

The Department of Justice's latest report on gun violence by the Bureau of Justice Statistics shows a 39% drop in gun murders from 1993 to 2011. Non-fatal gun crimes are down 69%.
Posted by veerbone
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:40 am to
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Alahunter


PREACH!
Posted by willthezombie
the graveyard
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:39 am to


So if cold weather causes murder, why are we trying to stop global warming?
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:46 pm to


Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:48 pm to
where is Decatur, DS, Spidertuby whatever his name is....

but, but, but
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