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re: Frick You ObamaCare
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:46 am to Hopeful Doc
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:46 am to Hopeful Doc
quote:The amount of cost-shifting, fraud, and waste on the payment side is where most of the problems are. Luckily government is good at solving those problems. Let’s put them in charge!
The health system is bullshite for 60 reasons or more on the payment/business side.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:51 am to BigApple
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Ask the doctor if he will take cash. Offer to pay him $3,000. I bet you he takes it!
If the doctor runs his own surgical center, he may can do this, but the problem comes when that Dr is an employee of a large system, which most are now. The facility fees are the biggest cost, and the Doctor has little influence on billing anymore, as they are employees…
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You won’t find any private single hospital room anywhere else in the world like we have here. European hospitals look like ours did… in the 50’s.
Imagine these "Free gubment health care" hipsters wanting to reduce their own health care experience to something similar to a cross country Spirt Airlines flight.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:55 am to Bronc
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Cause they spent way too long absorbing propaganda. So instead you get shite like Trump and the Republicans. That rail against Obamacare for 8 years. Promise they have a better way, then get into a super majority and turns out, they have nothing and pass nothing and things just keep deteriorating.
Liberal
Pay for your own health insurance loser.
Your dad should have taught you personal responsibility.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:58 am to Taxing Authority
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European hospitals look like ours did… in the 50’s.
Had to take my daughter to one in Whitehorse YT in mid 2000's, looked like a MASH tent.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 11:05 am to Eurocat
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It is my understanding that cadillac plans cover everything (in other words he would have paid nothing now, all paid for).
Your understanding is wrong. The Cadillac didn’t mean you pay nothing. It meant they covered everything, even coverage you didn’t want. For example….before ovomitcare, only women capable for pregnancy was charged for that insurance, now all women are charged for it including your 70 year old grandma who has no ability to get pregnant
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Had to take my daughter to one in Whitehorse YT in mid 2000's, looked like a MASH tent.
YT is not Europe.
the T means its not even a province.
Yukon. expecting a 1st world medical system in the yukon is the stuff of 1960s movies. zsa zsa gabor goes native.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:17 pm to Barrister
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operating under the belief that no other country has quality healthcare. Respectfully, visit Europe sometime… go to France for example . Check out their healthcare and then come back and let me know you have the same opinion.
You must not keep up too much. You havnt heard how long it takes to get an ambulance in London lately? Maybe an elective knee surgery? Maybe something you thought was minor by the time they can see you in say 8 months maybe it’s killing you.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:19 pm to The Torch
Remember to direct your anger toward John McCain who put his personal feelings toward Trump before his Country.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:20 pm to The Torch
quote:
Frick You ObamaCare
No no no. FRICK THE GOPE!!!
They had the votes to end it and 1 Globalist POS named John McCain voted with the DEMS.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:24 pm to The Torch
Hope your kid heals up fast and without issue (he will)
The idea is so that everyone is poor and on welfare of course. Taxes are mostly unnecessary and punitive in modern monetary theory.
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Of course, if we were unemployed, paid no taxes and were on welfare it would all be free.
The idea is so that everyone is poor and on welfare of course. Taxes are mostly unnecessary and punitive in modern monetary theory.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:31 pm to The Torch
I got fricked too.
Had to drive (well Uber) 20 miles to get to the ER who would take my garbage insurance. Kidney stones smh
Meds, however, that I just picked up were only 24 bux
Had to drive (well Uber) 20 miles to get to the ER who would take my garbage insurance. Kidney stones smh
Meds, however, that I just picked up were only 24 bux
Posted on 1/21/23 at 12:35 pm to The Torch
An average family of four is now saving $2500 a year because of Obamacare. I’d say it’s well worth it.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:03 pm to idlewatcher
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Kidney stones
boil some asparagus in original coca cola. simmer 10 minutes.
eat and drink it.
2 a day until your stone melts.
do a preventive once you pass this one.
you seen x rays? more little ones? they will all melt in the coca cola.
This post was edited on 1/21/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/21/23 at 1:36 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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An average family of four is now saving $2500 a year because of Obamacare. I’d say it’s well worth it.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 3:27 pm to CelticDog
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Had to take my daughter to one in Whitehorse YT in mid 2000's, looked like a MASH tent.
Was gonna say this. When gov runs health care you reduce competition. Therefore no reason to innovate.
There is a reason anyone in the world with a terminal disease come to the US for treatment.
I believe children under 18 should be covered under some sort of tax funded healthcare but after that you are on your own. This at least covers those people unable to fend for themselves.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:08 pm to BigApple
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Ask the doctor if he will take cash. Offer to pay him $3,000. I bet you he takes it!
Look at the numbers:
Dr visit $65 -- Medical care
Specialist $65 -- Medical care
Surgery Dr Fee $165 -- Medical care
Facility Fee $3,996.00 -- MBA Return for investors and executives
It isn't the medical care part of the system that's screwing everybody over.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:33 pm to The Torch
Obamacare: another
quote:piece of legislation.
vote collecting
Posted on 1/21/23 at 5:43 pm to The Torch
I've never understood the concept of why an employer should pay any of anyone's health care.
It should be simple, you pay yours and I'll pay mine.
Simple doesn't work in the mind of government.
It should be simple, you pay yours and I'll pay mine.
Simple doesn't work in the mind of government.
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