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re: For all you anti-immigrant types...

Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:23 am to
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You mock America all the time yet you attempt to use this. You need to reinstate your self-imposed ban.



I don't think mocking government policy is mocking America itself, unless you identify the government as being the essence and true identity of America.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:23 am to
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For all you anti-immigrant types...
I guess this is the kind of stupidity to be expected amidst an increasingly uneducated electorate.
(1) Identify an unsupportable goal. i.e., increased "illegal immigration"
(2) Relabel the goal in some innocuous generic way. i.e., "immigration"
(3) Use the twisted terminology to address opponents of #1, and enable accusations of anti-immigrant racism.
(4) Rinse and repeat.

Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56178 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:26 am to
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But if these were white people the scene would be different.


JazzyJeff = Harry Reid...

Aren't we all immigrants in a sense?

the US is a civilized land that has laws, policies and processes to protect the homeland for a host of reasons. (Just like every other nation)

Our population currently is comprised of 13% immigrants...or 40 Million from another country that now call USA 'home'!

You show me a country that has anywhere near 40 million aliens in their country? How about even 1 million? I'd be surprised

Multiculturalism is an experiment. No other country has the diversity that we have. We don't know if this will end well or not?

No other country welcomes or attracts people like the USA.

Your race baiting comments are not welcome and do not reflect reality.

I do think there is a push back from older whites that feel like America is "being taken over".

People in Houston Texas for example can have that attitude lingering in their hearts. They feel like the minority in their own city.

Is that a good thing?





Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26974 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:29 am to
So what your saying is that you support illegal immigration and don't want to do anything to stop it?

OK....
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:30 am to
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I guess this is the kind of stupidity to be expected amidst an increasingly uneducated electorate.



We need to teach better in our socialized school system, and say the pledge of allegiance again, that thing written by a socialist minister.

God Bless the socialized national defense, and our socialized courts! God Bless our socialized police force who do no-knock raids to look for dangerous plants! Let's hear it for conservative, socialist values.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:30 am to
I never realized how many America haters are also Saints fans. Weird
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:31 am to
I don't hate America. I hate what hurts it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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135693 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:37 am to
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We need to teach better in our socialized school system
Speaks volumes. Thank you.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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41187 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:38 am to
Wasn't intentional at all.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:41 am to
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I don't hate America. I hate what hurts it.


Like illegal immigration?

and anyone who doesn't think that an open borders policy would be the downfall of this country is either young and naive or borderline retarded.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:44 am to
I think the biggest threat to our freedom and prosperity is our own government. Immigration is a red herring.
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 9:45 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62750 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:46 am to
Oh look. Another thread confusing legal and illegal immigration.
Posted by McLovin NOLA
Garden District, NOLA
Member since May 2008
21 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:47 am to
If the people illegally "immigrating" were voting 90+ % GOP instead of the other way around, none of you phony Democrats would be pro-illegal immigrant. You would be gathering in large idiotic groups on the border to smoke dope and build massive impenetrable walls to keep them out.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:49 am to
I don't think taxpayers believe it to be a "red herring"
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:51 am to
Doesn't mean it isn't. At best it's just a symptom of the real problem, which is socialized monopolies and government owned land.
Posted by KoolHndLuke
Texas
Member since Mar 2014
115 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:52 am to
You should see all the White Ethiopians who basically run the Denver Airport. It was great to see so many more white immigrants working so hard to live the American dream.


You really aren't that intelligent and have bad ideas on what racism is.

A lot of hard working Ethiopian immigrants who came in legally to get a chance to a better future. That's what most Americans welcome. When you become an American Jeff let us know.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 9:55 am to
Funny thing is...Jeff is living in Japan. One of the most openly racist countries on the planet
This post was edited on 6/28/14 at 9:56 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76602 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:06 am to
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A nanny welfare state laden with entitlements and a severely restricted/controlled border with strict immigration policy.
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You can only have one of these.
OR
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An open border with no welfare state and no/little entitlements.


Take your pick OP. Those are your choices.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:15 am to
I want both. No welfare/nanny state with a strict immigration policy.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 6/28/14 at 10:19 am to
That was Milton Friedman's point. Ellis Island is celebrated by almost everyone as a good thing, but that was pre-welfare.

Another thing to think about (this has to do with another point I made earlier), do you sit awake at night worrying about how your someone across town is going to deal with security? Do you worry if he's going to build a fence at not? Oh course you don't. It's not your property. It's not under your care, so the worry isn't with you.

The concept of public property flips this on it's head. All of the sudden, you are worried, and any violation of this property seems like an affront to you. But what has changed? Nothing really, other than you are paying for it's care. You don't have any say or control over this land. It's not even guaranteed that you'll have access to this land you supposedly own.
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