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Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:50 pm to asurob1
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The tyranny of the majority is almost at it's end.
So tyranny of the minority is better?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:32 pm to constant cough
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So tyranny of the minority is better?
Do you know the definition of tyranny?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:07 pm to AlaTiger
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Then, someone from a state banning gay marriage will file suit and then U.S. Supreme Court, based on their previous precedent, will force the state to recognize and affirm all gay marriage in all 50 states. Actually, those suits have already been filed. It is just a matter of time. 2-3 years at the most.
This. So why not just get used to it? The sky has not fallen in the states and countries that have legalized same-sex marriage and I dare say it has not had any negative effect on anybody who is not gay.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 5:09 pm to Mickey Goldmill
More proof that the US died with Marbury v. Madison.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 7:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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You can't treat a certain group of citizens differently without proving a substantial state interest being involved.
Utah and Oklahoma's bans have been struck down this year. Kentucky must now recognize same sex marriages performed in other states. Rulings will be coming shortly for Texas, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.
Have you been paying attention to what's happening out west? Nevada this week announced it is refusing to defend its gay marriage ban after the Ninth Circuit ruled in an unrelated case that gay discrimination cases must be subjected to "heightened scrutiny". This is HUGE. In addition to Nevada, this is going to pave the way for bans to be struck down in Arizona, Oregon, Alaska,
Idaho, and Montana.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:00 pm to Toddy
Woohoo!!!!! All that matters in the entire world! 
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:03 pm to Toddy
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Have you been paying attention to what's happening out west?
Toddy, no matter what this or any forum may look like, most people just don't care.....
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:19 pm to fleaux
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Toddy, no matter what this or any forum may look like, most people just don't care.....
I'm sure Mickey cares and that's why I directed the question to him. A LOT of people do care. You know, the people that these laws directly affect.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:20 pm to MFn GIMP
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That is still the law of the land and constitutional per the Supreme Court
You and your logic can GTFO!!!!
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:27 pm to Mickey Goldmill
After reading the opinion I find it interesting that not once in this opinion does the judge mention Section 2 of DOMA. A section that was not found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court and a section that says, explicitly, that states do not have to recognize any marriage from another state.
I support gay marriage but hate that the way other supporters are going about getting it legalized.
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Section 2. Powers reserved to the states
No State, territory, or possession of the United States, or Indian tribe, shall be required to give effect to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State, territory, possession, or tribe respecting a relationship between persons of the same sex that is treated as a marriage under the laws of such other State, territory, possession, or tribe, or a right or claim arising from such relationship.
I support gay marriage but hate that the way other supporters are going about getting it legalized.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:30 pm to elprez00
How do they handle the fact that some states recognize marriages between first cousins and other states don't? That would be the most relevant precedent.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:31 pm to MFn GIMP
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After reading the opinion I find it interesting that not once in this opinion does the judge mention Section 2 of DOMA. A section that was not found to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court and a section that says, explicitly, that states do not have to recognize any marriage from another state.
A case challenging Section 2 has never been brought before the SCOTUS. They haven't ruled on Section 2 (yet). Only Section 3 has been challenged before the SCOTUS
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:33 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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How do they handle the fact that some states recognize marriages between first cousins and other states don't? That would be the most relevant precedent.
Kentucky does not recognize out of state marriages between first cousins. LINK
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Kentucky does not recognize such a marriage between first cousins even if it is consummated in another state
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:34 pm to Toddy
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A case challenging Section 2 has never been brought before the SCOTUS. They haven't ruled on Section 2 (yet). Only Section 3 has been challenged before the SCOTUS
Thus it is still constitutional and the law of the land. I find it convenient that federal courts are ignoring Section 2 in order to further the goal of gay marriage through judicial ruling.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:37 pm to Jbird
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Woohoo!!!!! All that matters in the entire world!
If you are a gay person wanting to marry the person you love...then yes.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:40 pm to asurob1
quote:I support gay marriage but this shite is getting old, ENDA will be next in this money generating machine, it will never end.
If you are a gay person wanting to marry the person you love...then yes.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 8:51 pm to Jbird
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ENDA will be next in this money generating machine, it will never end.
Obama is going to issue an executive order regarding ENDA before he leaves office. You can bank on that.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 9:44 pm to Rebellious
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The sky has not fallen in the states and countries that have legalized same-sex marriage and I dare say it has not had any negative effect on anybody who is not gay.
the legal precedents being set are terrible and, ironically, anti-liberty. just wait for it (just like the CRA)
i believe in gay marriage, but the methods being used to achieve this goal are terrible and i cannot support them
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 9:45 pm
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