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re: Federal Holidays (Juneteenth)
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:45 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:45 pm to Indefatigable
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I don’t have an issue with celebrating the end of slavery generally. I think the name is fricking stupid, and celebrating the random day that some people told slaves in Galveston that slavery was over is even dumber.
But let’s be honest, they chose it for the dumb name and because it would be a more direct corollary to July 4.
Eh, I've heard that I just don't really think it's much of a motivation nor do the black people I know who celebrated it before it became nationally known view it as such. I don't really feel bombarded with stuff about it, but considering it represents something pretty fundamentally good - I don't think I'd have more than mild annoyance even if I did.
It's a long held holiday by black Texans with wholesome origins that is being perhaps inorganically grown into representing a much larger thing. It just doesn't really bother me, I guess.
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:51 pm to Indefatigable
When black slaves were free, news didnt spread well, or was withheld, or both. Then news spread over several days by word of mouth, from plantation to plantation, informing they were free, hence juneteenth. Said to have been in TX.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:56 pm to THog
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When black slaves were free, news didnt spread well, or was withheld, or both. Then news spread over several days by word of mouth, from plantation to plantation, informing they were free, hence juneteenth. Said to have been in TX.
There were still slaves in the United States well after that date. Legal slaves, by the way.
June 19th is a local holiday in south Texas that has no relevance to the majority of the US. Except of course, it’s unabashedly black with a capital B name and its proximity to July 4th. Those factors are why it was chosen for a federal holiday.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 2:58 pm to Pettifogger
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It just doesn't really bother me, I guess.
I’m not bothered by the holiday itself. The political factors that led the sudden explosion of prominence is more my beef.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:06 pm to AggieHank86
Juneteenth wasn't the end of slavery in the US. It was the end of slavery in the last of the Confederate states. Slavery in the US didn't end until the 13th Amendment was ratified in December of 1865 and the last slaves were freed in Kentucky, Delaware, and New Jersey who had all voted against the 13th and still had legal slaves (New Jersey had banned new slaves but current slaves were still in bondage, Maryland and Missouri both freed their slaves before the end of the war).
The Civil War also wasn't the first war over slavery either. That was the War with the Barbary Pirates who enslaved mainly white sailors they captured on the high seas and put them in slavery in Africa.
Inconvenient facts.
The Civil War also wasn't the first war over slavery either. That was the War with the Barbary Pirates who enslaved mainly white sailors they captured on the high seas and put them in slavery in Africa.
Inconvenient facts.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 4:39 pm to aggressor
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That was the War with the Barbary Pirates
Not just for us, but the Royal Navy also blockaded slave ports in Africa around the same period.
To the shores of Tripoli, for the slow amongst us... The burning of the USS Philadelphia is some nuts of titanium stuff.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 5:15 pm to LemmyLives
To go a step further the last slaves in the US were not freed until 1869 when the last of the Indian Tribes were finally coerced into giving up their slaves. The last slaveowners in the US were POC.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 8:00 am to aggressor
Personally, I could not be more proud to celebrate their freedom than giving them one day in the middle of gay, queer, tranny month
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