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re: FBI Schedules Interviews w/ Congressional Seditious Six
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:59 am to northshorebamaman
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:59 am to northshorebamaman
quote:Refusal to follow legal orders, or worse.
Inappropriate actions such as?
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Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:00 am to northshorebamaman
Why not offer that same mechanical logic to Trump? I.E., He was purely reminding the lawmakers of the penalty of sedition. If you aren’t consistent, your argument stops being logical and becomes partisan.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:04 am to NC_Tigah
quote:So you're saying, in your opinion, it's reasonable to suggest that the military might not follow orders?
Refusal to follow legal orders
Come on man. I know for a fact you're smart enough to know the positions aren't logically compatible.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:05 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:logic isn't partisan. it's logic.
Why not offer that same mechanical logic to Trump? I.E., He was purely reminding the lawmakers of the penalty of sedition. If you aren’t consistent, your argument stops being logical and becomes partisan.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:05 am to northshorebamaman
quote:no.
So you're saying, in your opinion, it's reasonable to suggest that the military might not follow orders?
I'm saying CIA style propaganda might successfully influence individuals into bad action.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:06 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Yet there are individuals on this board who claim those insinuations are irrelevant,
Good luck getting a conviction.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:06 am to Vacherie Saint
and didn't he say the penalty is death?
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:08 am to NC_Tigah
quote:But you just gave disobeying orders as your example of a bad action.
I'm saying CIA style propaganda might successfully influence individuals into bad action.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The military code of criminal justice won't look on this as kindly as you suspect, if that is the route that this goes.
Good luck getting a conviction.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:10 am to northshorebamaman
quote:No. But I did give that as one example.
But you just gave disobeying orders as your example of a bad action.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:12 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Yet there are individuals on this board who claim those insinuations are irrelevant, because you can parse her words, and they don't specifically say what she obviously meant.
I don't care what those individuals say. I heard what I heard and we can use history as a precedent.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:16 am to NC_Tigah
quote:It's the only example that matters to the contradiction. So we're right back to square one. I'm not trying to be a dick here but we could have this circular conversation for eternity and you won't resolve the contradiction.
But I did give that as one example.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:17 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
The military code of criminal justice won't look on this as kindly as you suspect,
will see, but I think you baws are going to be very disappointed again.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
will see, but I think you baws are going to be very disappointed again.
This thread has gone to shite. Let's hope none of the six lie to the FBI.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:23 am to northshorebamaman
Okay champ you win, happy now?
The threat was the point of the message. Instill doubt and fear.
Enjoy your big win.
The threat was the point of the message. Instill doubt and fear.
Enjoy your big win.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:27 am to Jbird
quote:Have to work today, unfortunately for me, so time to get moving. You guys enjoy your families and your holiday.
Okay champ you win, happy now?
The threat was the point of the message. Instill doubt and fear.
Enjoy your big win
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:27 am to northshorebamaman
You as well bamaman.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:35 am to northshorebamaman
quote:Perhaps not. But in the Japanese triad of monkeys "hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil," you're the one with hands over his ears.
I'm not trying to be a dick here
You have a guy like Bowe Bergdahl, who becomes disaffected by statements as the one we are addressing. He goes off and does something stupid against orders. He puts lives at risk as a result. There is no excuse for the message that these seditious SOBs put out. None! There should be a consequence. Hopefully there will be.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:33 am to northshorebamaman
quote:
logic isn't partisan. it's logic.
right. so be logically consistent.
What the right sees is an entire political party maintaining an overt, blanket position that Trump is a threat to democracy and deeming every executive action "illegal" - not just rhetorically, but pursuing those ends in court (approximately 300 cases). Then, leaders from that same party post a video accusing Trump of pitting the military against the American people and threatening the Constitution before stating that "unlawful orders need not be followed". Naturally, the context and implication are seditious. But the left is making the "mechanical logic" (your words, not mine) defense of this video, that they didn't technically accuse Trump of unlawful orders, so this was just a bizarre PSA of some sort and we shouldn't worry about context and implication.
OK, I'm willing to go there with you, until you start applying the context and implication standard to Trump's response. And where was all of the "mechanical logic" over Trump's J6 speech, or a number of comments (bloodbath, second amendment people, etc.)?
Either we scrutinize context and implication for all politicians or none.
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:33 am to Vacherie Saint
quote:
Why not offer that same mechanical logic to Trump? I.E., He was purely reminding the lawmakers of the penalty of sedition
Who said Trump should be prosecuted for his comments?
Who is criticizing Trump's comments on a legal/rhetorical level?
Now, on an EMOTIONAL level? Sure. He took the bait and looks bad. Nobody said it was illegal, though.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 8:35 am
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