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re: Failure of minority cultures have made urban dwelling unfair to whites.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:28 pm to The_Duke
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:28 pm to The_Duke
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can't have that discussion without acknowledging the tremendous head start whites and and the disadvantages blacks had to over come to even be where we are today.
You people don't want a discussion. You want preferential treatment.
And as for the "head start" whites have had, how about acknowledging some fundamental truths about human nature, societal development, and the progression of civilizations?
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:28 pm to The_Duke
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in 1 generation.
A generation is considered 20 years. Enough time for a baby to be born, mature, and reproduce, rounded off for the generality.
So if you are using the 1963 Civil Rights Act as THE defining moment in "having overcome", coming up on 3 generations.
Many "silent" blacks have taken advantage of the access and live very nicely in the melting pot of America. Most of the "vocal" ones, not so much.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:33 pm to The_Duke
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Are you referring to the "ascribe or die" way of adjusting? Adjustments by force?
Well, if blacks want to transform America into Nigeria then yes, we should use force to stop them.
But free markets are not coerced. They use the natural inclination of people to get ahead by hard work and good decisions.
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"We really suck at free market capitalism" can be the slogan for what--70-80% of the world? Not really saying much.
Oh, free market capitalism used to be about 10% of the world. And they dominated the globe because of the superiority of the system.
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And don't place western white males cultural values on everyone else as if it's the only way to live.
It's not the only way to live. It's the best way to live. That's why Indians (in India) love their martinis. It wasn't because Hindus own a lot of gin distilleries.
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Some cultures don't care about having an over abundance of material things that humans don't really need.
Yes. That's why they are called primitive. If you want to live as a primitive go ahead. But stop bitching that life isn't fair.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:35 pm to Zach
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That's why Indians (in India) love their martinis. It wasn't because Hindus own a lot of gin distilleries.
Indians over here have quite the affinity for similar beverages as well.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:38 pm to Strannix
If black people are downtrodden only because of white privilege and racism then why isn't Africa a thriving utopia that is a shining example of how blacks can be successful if whites aren't there to make their life hard.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:43 pm to Strannix
Minority or not, you can't take your excuses to the bank.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:17 pm to Zach
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Well, if blacks want to transform America into Nigeria then yes, we should use force to stop them.
Straw
man
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Oh, free market capitalism used to be about 10% of the world. And they dominated the globe because of the superiority of the system.
Superior in some regards--not so much in others.
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It's not the only way to live. It's the best way to live. That's why Indians (in India) love their martinis. It wasn't because Hindus own a lot of gin distilleries.
If you believe that consumerism and arbitrary profit goals should be the main goal for humanity--the yes, it is the best way of living.
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Yes. That's why they are called primitive. If you want to live as a primitive go ahead. But stop bitching that life isn't fair.
never said anything wasn't fair. White males won the battle for economic supremacy a long time ago. Great job.
But to have a discussion about why blacks can't keep up, and then not list actual reason why is intellectually dishonest. I mean it's factually indisputable that blacks were oppressed politically, educationally, and spiritually in this country for over 80% of the time America has been established.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:22 pm to goldennugget
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If black people are downtrodden only because of white privilege and racism then why isn't Africa a thriving utopia that is a shining example of how blacks can be successful if whites aren't there to make their life hard.
For the same reason in the beginning of your statement. Ever hear of colonization? Read a book for me, one time!
Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:29 pm to WheelRoute
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Ever hear of colonization?
Colonization of the dark continent didn't occur until the 16th century. What were sub-Saharans doing before then?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:34 pm to The_Duke
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White males won the battle for economic supremacy a long time ago.
White males won a lot of battles for a lot of supremacies. So have Asians, Hispanics....Those books referred to earlier should include Spanish and Portuguese exploration and domination of large parts of the entire world.
Why is it only in America have blacks sought any supremacy?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:35 pm to The_Duke
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White males won the battle for economic supremacy a long time ago.
Why did they win it? Why didn't blacks?
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but to have a discussion about why blacks can't keep up, and then not list actual reason why is intellectually dishonest.
Reason 1: lower standards
Reason 2: victim mentality
Reason 3: over-willingness toward govt. dependence
Reason 4: misplaced priorities
Reason 5: cultural pathology infiltrated by immorality
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I mean it's factually indisputable that blacks were oppressed politically, educationally, and spiritually in this country for over 80% of the time America has been established.
contradiction in terms when you throw out a statistic that's overwhelmingly disputable
Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:49 pm to Sidicous
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Why is it only in America have blacks sought any supremacy?
When have we voiced the need the be supreme? a fare shake is all we asked for in America.
And some scholars argue that Egyptians and blacks have common accessorial links or maybe even direct linages. That would mean that blacks had their time as well.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:02 pm to The_Duke
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When have we voiced the need the be supreme? a fare shake is all we asked for in America.
For 3 generations, by Law, blacks have had a "fair shake", aggressively enforced at the end of gun barrels and through the Civil Courts.
What the vocal black community in America is demanding is no longer equality but superiority. Wanting to be separate but equal should be obviously deficient but apparently not. Well, look around!
Urban Jungles are the same as Indian Reservations except self imposed and more violent. Fewer opportunities for positive achievements and more opportunities for negative achievements abound in each. The commonality? Separatist thinking. "We are different!" "We will be different!" And, "we will not blend in!"
How's that working out for ya?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:03 pm to PoundFoolish
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Why did they win it? Why didn't blacks?
Same reasons Europeans were living in caves when Egyptians were building kingdoms and pyramids that still stand today. Throughout history nearly every race has had their time in the spot light.
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Reason 1: lower standards Reason 2: victim mentality Reason 3: over-willingness toward govt. dependence Reason 4: misplaced priorities Reason 5: cultural pathology infiltrated by immorality
You can't possibly be this ignorant and disgusting. Please read more.
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contradiction in terms when you throw out a statistic that's overwhelmingly disputabl
First slave
" White Lion. In 1619, a Dutch ship, the White Lion, captured 20 enslaved Africans in a battle with a Spanish ship. They landed at Jamestown, Virginia for repairs from the battle. For food and supplies, the Dutch traded the enslaved Africans to the Colonials as indentured servants"
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Civil rights act
"The Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Pub.L. 88–352, 78 Stat. 241, enacted July 2, 1964) is a landmark piece of civil rights and US labor law legislation in the United States that outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin."
Now what about my timeline of oppression incorrect?
North Carolina even had a law that PROHIBITED BLACKS FORM READ AND WRITING that was passed in 1830s.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:08 pm to Sidicous
Well you started off with a lie. The civil rights movement was in the mid 60s. Not sure how that equates to 3 generations.
Also, you did not consider the time it takes for the mentality of individuals to change. Laws don't change cultures over night-- but I'm done speaking with you. You obviously have some mental complex superior than other--never mind the scientific research that has debunked that.
Also, you did not consider the time it takes for the mentality of individuals to change. Laws don't change cultures over night-- but I'm done speaking with you. You obviously have some mental complex superior than other--never mind the scientific research that has debunked that.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:09 pm to The_Duke
How am I reaching? Im just stating the fact after you claimed you never said all while males. Im not even interested in discussing this topic, I just ran across your post and wanted to point out you did not say "in general."
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:11 pm to Yaboylaroy
as well as I did not say "all" white males. Just as this thread did not say "all" minority communities. but cool
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:11 pm to The_Duke
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North Carolina even had a law that PROHIBITED BLACKS FORM READ AND WRITING that was passed in 1830s.
Is the inability to read a hereditary trait passed along from parent to child?
Let me ask you one serious question.
What is your conception of "fairness?"
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:16 pm to ChineseBandit58
How can I teach my offspring to read and write in a culture that places great emphasis on reading and writing, if I myself do not know how to read and write? add to that I don't have the money to pay someone. Surely you can understand the lag time needed to catch up.
and I think America is at a point now that it is fair. I believe that my generation was the first to experiences that complete fairness--and results are positive across the boards for the entire nation.
and I think America is at a point now that it is fair. I believe that my generation was the first to experiences that complete fairness--and results are positive across the boards for the entire nation.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:22 pm to The_Duke
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The_Duke
You may be more retarded than Big Scrub . . . and that's saying something.
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