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re: Explain how the ‘Deep State’ was formed?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:48 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:48 pm to BBONDS25
My position has always been incompetence rather than criminality. My understanding on Mueller though is that he was only in office for a week during his part of the whole thing.
Seems like a reach tbh.
Seems like a reach tbh.
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:49 pm to Tigerdev
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My position has always been incompetence rather than criminality
So it's ok to call the IC incompetent....just not dishonest. Have I summed it up correctly?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:50 pm to BBONDS25
No idea what you are talking about. Some pathetic drive by attempt at a "gotcha!" I assume?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:53 pm to Tigerdev
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No idea what you are talking about.
You do know what they talk about but choose to rebuke it for what ever reason. I suppose you feel it is against your brethren in DC.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:54 pm to Tigerdev
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No idea what you are talking about. Some pathetic drive by attempt at a "gotcha!" I assume?
ROFLMAO
You're basically a broken record at this point. You're stuck with your only option being to pretend you're just stupid as a defense
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:56 pm to themunch
No I literally don't know how he arrived at a binary question like that. They brought up Bush out of nowhere as well. It's pretty silly.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:58 pm to Tigerdev
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only in office for a week
Mueller was sworn in on September 4th, 2001.
His testimony/bullshite about Iraq happened February 13th, 2003.
quote:
Iraq's WMD program poses a clear threat to our national security, a threat that will certainly increase in the event of future military action against Iraq. Baghdad has the capability and, we presume, the will to use biological, chemical, or radiological weapons against US domestic targets in the event of a US invasion. We are also concerned about terrorist organizations with direct ties to Iraq—such as the Iranian dissident group, Mujahidin-e Khalq, and the Palestinian Abu Nidal Organization.
Groups like the Abu Nidal Organization may target US entities overseas but probably lack the military infrastructure to conduct organized terrorist attacks on US soil. A notable exception is the Mujahedin-e Khalq, which has a US presence and proven operational capability overseas and which cooperates with Baghdad.
Secretary Powell presented evidence last week that Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of mass destruction, willfully attempting to evade and deceive the international community. Our particular concern is that Saddam may supply al-Qaeda with biological, chemical, or radiological material before or during a war with the US to avenge the fall of his regime. Although divergent political goals limit al-Qaeda's cooperation with Iraq, northern Iraq has emerged as an increasingly important operational base for al-Qaeda associates, and a US-Iraq war could prompt Baghdad to more directly engage al-Qaeda.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:58 pm to ShortyRob
Reading through the thread he’s getting absolutely obliterated. He’s either being intentionally obtuse to the points being made or willfully ignorant.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:59 pm to NIH
Savage boom
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:59 pm to BeeFense5
I'm sure you and Shorty are unbiased in your take 
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:59 pm to Bison
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Explain how the ‘Deep State’ was formed?
Money, power, greed thus sin....
Satan's web to destroy men.
Questions?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:01 pm to Tigerdev
Are you reading what you type at this point?
Your only point in this thread is some retarded belief that only trump supporters think there is a deep state because it absolves him from criticism or something stupid like that.
Wow
Your only point in this thread is some retarded belief that only trump supporters think there is a deep state because it absolves him from criticism or something stupid like that.
Wow
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:01 pm to NIH
Gotcha. As I said I wasn't all that familiar. I am still waiting to understand how this proves there is a "deep state" though? It sounds like you and Bond have some sort of belief about the left's reaction to Iraq that you are tying to this thread and I'm still not seeing it. Please clarify.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:03 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:04 pm to Tigerdev
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It sounds like you and Bond have some sort of belief about the left's reaction to Iraq that you are trying to this thread and I'm still not seeing it.
10 years ago the left was skeptical and in arms about the intelligence and law enforcement community influencing and directing elected officials to their will. Now, both of those communities are to be trusted and not doubted. Does that make any sense to you? How can you or other Democrats quality someone like Mueller to be beyond reproach when he spouted the EXACT lies that Democrats amounted to be war crimes?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:04 pm to Tigerdev
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No idea what you are talking about. Some pathetic drive by attempt at a "gotcha!" I assume?
How can you miss what I am getting at. Was the IC incompetent, dishonest, or something else when it came to Iraq?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:06 pm to BBONDS25
My confusion is how this is relevent to a conversation about the "deep state". I also already said incompetent quite clearly so wtf are you on about?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:07 pm to Tigerdev
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It sounds like you and Bond have some sort of belief about the left's reaction to Iraq that you are tying to this thread and I'm still not seeing it. Please clarify.
You said that the IC was incompetent not criminal when it came to Iraq. I didn't tie anything to this thread. Those were your words.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:10 pm to NIH
They like GWB now too it's fricking stupid
it's fricking stupidPosted on 4/15/18 at 4:10 pm to NIH
I don't think you described the Dem position all that well to be honest. Our concern wasn't Intel directing foreign policy. Our position was that Bush and Cheney wanted war with Iraq and that the Intel community delivered the flimsy justification. What most felt at the time was that Bush and Cheney wanted the war regardless...and that Intel community either failed to communicate the risk or were ignored.
So I get now that you are trying to equate the issues but it isn't synonymous at all imo.
So I get now that you are trying to equate the issues but it isn't synonymous at all imo.
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