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re: Explain how the ‘Deep State’ was formed?

Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:21 pm to
You're arguing a straw man. You've been provided pretty accurate descriptions of the deep state and refuse to engage.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20931 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:22 pm to
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It's being used to dismiss all critques, political opposition, or legal issues as a conspiracy. Rather convenient and self-serving wouldn't you say?

So...like the Russia conspiracy??
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:22 pm to
It's not a straw man. I'm stating how it's used and why. It's a political tactic not a demonstratable thing.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117110 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:24 pm to
It is absolutely a real thing. Lifelong bureaucrats who think they're above elected politicians and the mandates of the voters- its pervasive now more than ever because Trump wants to shake things up.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13930 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:24 pm to
Well you misunderstand again bovine breath.

The Deep State is the unelected drones who depend up the government for their wellbeing. They resist any and all who want a smaller more efficient government that will damage their gravy train.

Example:

Notice the low life piece of shite looking down her nose?! The very definition of Deep State garbage.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:28 pm to
Sorry but it's all bullshite. People were crying "muh deepstate" even when a Trump appointed judge signed a warrant. It is politically expedient for Trump and his followers to lessen the credibility of law enforcement and the intelligence community strictly because of Russia's role in the election. People are following Trump like sheep because he is telling them what they want to hear.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117110 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:29 pm to
You're tying random comments to well thought out definitions. Straw - man.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:32 pm to
You are avoiding addressing any of what I am saying because your position is indefensible.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
39751 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:33 pm to
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It is politically expedient for Trump and his followers to lessen the credibility of law enforcement and the intelligence community strictly because of Russia's role in the election. 

Our intelligence community and federal law enforcement have zero credibility because of their past actions, not because of Trump. Seriously, why would anyone trust the CIA or NSA to be forthright when their job is to lie, manipulate, deceive and, in the CIA's case, assassinate leaders and foment coups and wars around the globe? When Bush was President, the very people on here venerating the intelligence establishment were singing the exact opposite tune. Now they can do no wrong.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:34 pm to
Lots of money flowing into DC.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117110 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:34 pm to
I didn't make those comments nor did any of the well informed posters who have explained what the deep state is. You haven't addressed our definitions because you know they are accurate.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31517 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:35 pm to
you dont even try anymore. just a weak troll at this point that everyone laughs at. Congrats I guess
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117110 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:40 pm to
I miss the days where the left didn't trust the government.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Explain how the ‘Deep State’ was formed?


Asking this question means you've already lost.
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Explain how the ‘Deep State’ was formed?


Like most conspiracy theories, it's the unholy offspring of pseudo-intellectuals and cheap bourbon.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117110 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:42 pm to
We can't all work the phones at a shitty Metairie rock station
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:46 pm to
The only post i didnt reply to focused on origin of terminology rather than current usage. I interpret the OP to be focused on how "the deep state was formed" as the term is used today. The answer to that question is based on political expediency and not on the answer you gave. The idea that there is an active conspiracy among civil servants against Trump is unfounded. Conversely, Trump and his supporters are highly motivated to attack law enforcement and intelligence community because of their position that the evidence indicates Russian interference likely helped Trumps campaign.
It's simple. You just refuse to see it because it goes against your world view.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14107 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:47 pm to
The "deep state" is an invention by those who wish to subvert justice and democracy. There is no unified "deep State" in any real sense in part because government officials rarely agree on anything.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23179 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 2:47 pm to
Instead of playing Internet gotchas on tigerdroppings, just go google and do your own research.

Go in with no agenda and come out the other side with your own opinion.

At the end maybe you believe or maybe you do not, it is your own journey.
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