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re: Ever wonder why governments are pushing hard for electric vehicles?

Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:31 pm to
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How is an EV self sufficient? Is there one that charges itself while driving and doesn't require you to plug in for a charge?


You do know that you can charge a battery without plugging in to the electrical grid, right?

Or do you not know what self-sufficiency means?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:34 pm to
Motorcycles will be the ultimate freedom machine.
Posted by Audustxx
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:37 pm to
If I didn’t know better, I would almost think our government wants to control our lives.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:38 pm to
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Motorcycles will be the ultimate freedom machine.

I think you meant bicycles.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:44 pm to
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You not understanding the point is the least surprising thing I'll read today.




The Government doesn't need electric vehicles to cut power to you or to remove any other service for that matter. They have that ability right now without electric vehicles

You people are so dumb.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:45 pm to
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think you meant bicycles.


Our descendants will walk everywhere.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:57 pm to
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I think you meant bicycles.


No. You can build a motorcycle in your garage.

Remember Orange County Choppers?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 1:59 pm to
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No. You can build a motorcycle in your garage.

Is it going to run on hopes and dreams?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Is it going to run on hopes and dreams?

Homebrew fuel if need be.

Alcohol or bio diesel.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:00 pm to
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You do know that you can charge a battery without plugging in to the electrical grid, right? Or do you not know what self-sufficiency means?
You are such a pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, smug, know-it-all, better-than-thou piece of excrement. In other words, you are such a frigging libtard.

If you have an EV that gets 4 miles/kWh, for every 100 miles you travel you will need to add 25kWh to your car battery. Using the 2 solar chargers that you mentioned you mentioned earlier,
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You can get two 2000WH solar panel generators for $2700 on Amazon. It takes 9.5 hours to charge them in the sun.

LINK


Assuming 9.5 hours of sun each day, you would need to charge for 6+ days to get the 25 kWhrs needed to go a hundred miles.....
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:03 pm to
Anyone seriously considering being self sufficient needs to invest in a real solar system, not some bullshite off amazon.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 2:05 pm
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:07 pm to
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The Government doesn't need electric vehicles to cut power to you or to remove any other service for that matter. They have that ability right now without electric vehicles
It's actually about keeping the slaves on the plantation. The slave owners in the 1800's (aka democrats) didn't like their slaves leaving the plantation then either. Gasoline/Diesel equates to freedom because you can get 8-10 five gallon fuel cans and move from democrat run cesspools to Red States half way across the US. Hard to get those darn electrons to stay in those cans.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Anyone seriously considering being self sufficient needs to invest in a real solar system, not some bullshite off amazon.
Can't argue that. Still don't believe it is going to work for a car, unless you plan on being on 100 mile radius leash from home.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:08 pm to
Double Post.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted by kingbob
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:10 pm to
The real reason for ethanol mandates is it gives gasoline a shorter shelf life so you can’t hoard it.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Can't argue that. Still don't believe it is going to work for a car, unless you plan on being on 100 mile radius leash from home.

I have a 40amp charger that can charger my wife or SIL's Teslas just like normal. Granted, i have a large solar setup with a large battery bank, but we can and have gone off-grid for over a month. I can also back-feed power from the car into the house if needed.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:15 pm to
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You are such a pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, smug, know-it-all, better-than-thou piece of excrement. In other words, you are such a frigging libtard.


You're a moron. Morons don't like it when they're made to look like morons. You'd have an easier time if you'd accept that there are people who know what they're talking about. You tried to pull some shite you read on Google, but you don't know enough about the topic to actually know what it meant.

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2000W


I have more than double that on my fricking travel trailer my dude.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:18 pm to
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I have a 40amp charger that can charger my wife or SIL's Teslas just like normal. Granted, i have a large solar setup with a large battery bank, but we can and have gone off-grid for over a month. I can also back-feed power from the car into the house if needed.

But you're still on a 100 mile leash, if you don't use the power grid.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16773 posts
Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:23 pm to
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But you're still on a 100 mile leash, if you don't use the power grid.

170ish. But no one can disrupt my supply, price gouge me, etc. Gas cars are beholden to supply chains and refining. The only person who can disrupt my mobility is Elon Musk.
Posted by Back to Scat
Dry Prong
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 2:27 pm to
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