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AggieHank86
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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A lot of simpletons in this thread. Is it too much to ask that we have accuracy in our language?
A certain percentage of posters on this Forum would rather attack others for things that they did NOT say or do than for things that they DID say or do.

It is truly bizarre.


RTM4
Texas Fan
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
Ain't reading all this chit now but letting you know..... who gives a chit. He dittles little girls and boys probably. frick your semantics and I don't care.


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AggieHank86
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile


Jordan, I sympathize, dude.


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VoxDawg
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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Bjorn Cyborg


So you'd be down with your kid spending the weekend with him so long as you address his criminal predilictions correctly?


AggieHank86
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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So you'd be down with your kid spending the weekend with him so long as you address his criminal predilictions correctly?
whoever owns the royalty rights to non sequiturs is making mint on this thread.


Fat Bastard
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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e’s disgusting and should go to jail if found guilty, but these all appear to be post-pubescent girls.

We can despise the guy, while still using correct terminology.


agreed.

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Ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in later adolescents, typically ages 15–19)


and whether we like it or not 18 and up is legal!


TigerBait1971
LSU Fan
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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So you'd be down with your kid spending the weekend with him 


Wow.

Shout him down, bro.


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Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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Sounds more like Thomas Jefferson's thing.

No point in having slaves if you can't bang em


Uh, no. Read and learn:

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"...
This Fourth of July, let’s look at the tactics used by the left to blacken the reputations of American heroes. To wit, the lie that the principal author of the declaration, Thomas Jefferson, fathered a child with his slave, Sally Hemings.

The charge was first leveled in 1802 by a muckraking, racist, alcoholic journalist, James Callender, who had served prison time for his particular brand of journalism. He had tried to blackmail Jefferson into appointing him postmaster at Richmond. When that failed, Callender retaliated by publicly accusing Jefferson of fathering the first-born son of Sally Hemings -- or, as the charming Callender described her, “a slut as common as the pavement.”

No serious historian ever believed Callender’s defamation -- not Dumas Malone, Merrill Peterson, Douglass Adair or John Chester Miller. Not one. Their reasoning was that there was absolutely no evidence to support the theory and plenty to contradict it.

The Jefferson-Hemings myth was revived by feminists trying to elevate the role of women in history. Modern pedagogy requires that no period of our past be taught without turning it into a lecture on racism, sexism or homophobia.

Fawn M. Brodie got the ball rolling with her 1974 book, "Thomas Jefferson: An Intimate History," which used Freudian analysis to prove Jefferson kept Hemings as his concubine and fathered all six of her children.

Brodie’s book was followed by Barbara Chase-Riboud’s 1979 novel "Sally Hemings," a work that imagines Hemings’ interior life. When CBS announced plans to make a miniseries out of the novel, Jefferson scholars exploded, denouncing the project as a preposterous lie. The miniseries was canceled.

Finally, a female law professor, Annette Gordon-Reed, wrote "Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: An American Controversy," which accused professional historians of racism for refusing to defer to the “oral history” of Hemings’ descendants.

She said “racism,” so the historians shut up.

In 1998, a retired pathologist, Dr. Eugene Foster, performed a DNA test on the Y-chromosomes of living male descendants of Sally Hemings, as well as those from Jefferson’s paternal uncle. The Y-chromosome is passed from male to male, so, if the story were true, Hemings’ male descendants ought to have the Y-chromosome of the Jefferson male bloodline.

What the DNA tests showed was that Hemings’ firstborn son, Tom -- the Tom whose alleged paternity was the basis for Callender’s accusation -- was not related to any Jefferson male.

Foster’s study did establish that Hemings’ last-born son, Eston, was the son of some Jefferson male, but could not possibly say whether that was Thomas Jefferson or any of the other 25 adult male Jeffersons living in Virginia at the time, eight of them at or near Monticello.

For Eston to be Jefferson’s son, we have to believe that five years after being falsely accused of fathering a child with Hemings, Jefferson decided, What the heck? I may be president of the United States, but I should prove Callender’s slander true by fathering a child with my slave! No one will notice.

It would be as if five years after the Duke lacrosse hoax, one of the falsely accused players went out and actually raped a stripper -- in fact, the same stripper.

Nonetheless, Nature magazine titled its article on the study “Jefferson Fathered Slave’s Last Child.” Hundreds of newspapers rushed to print with the lie, e.g.:

"Study: Jefferson, Slave Had Baby" -- Associated Press Online, Nov. 1, 1998

"DNA Study Shows Jefferson Fathered His Slave’s Child" -- Los Angeles Times, Nov. 1, 1998

"Jefferson Exposed" -- Boston Globe, Nov. 3, 1998

Two months after these false “findings” had been broadcast from every news outlet where English is spoken, Foster admitted that the DNA had not proved Jefferson fathered any children by Sally Hemings, merely that he could have fathered one child. Only eight newspapers mentioned the retraction.

The science alone puts the odds of Thomas Jefferson fathering Eston at less than 15% -- less than 4%, if all living Jefferson males are considered, not just the ones at Monticello.

All other known facts about Jefferson make it far less probable still.

There are no letters, diaries or records supporting the idea that Jefferson was intimate with Hemings, and quite a bit of written documentation to refute it, including Jefferson’s views on miscegenation and his failure to free Hemings in his will, despite freeing several other slaves.

In private letters, Jefferson denounced Callender’s claim -- a denial made more credible by his admission to a sexual indiscretion that would have been more shameful at the time: his youthful seduction of a friend’s wife.

None of the private correspondence from anyone else living at Monticello credited the Hemings rumor, though several pointed to other likely suspects -- specifically Jefferson’s brother, Randolph.

Eston was born in 1808, when Thomas Jefferson was 64 years old and in his second term as president. His brother Randolph was 52, and Randolph’s five sons were 17 to 24 years old. All of them were frequent visitors at Monticello.

While Jefferson was busy entertaining international visitors in the main house, Randolph would generally retire to the slave quarters to dance and fiddle. One slave, Isaac Granger Jefferson, described Randolph in his dictated memoirs thus: “Old Master’s brother, Mass Randall, was a mighty simple man: used to come out among black people, play the fiddle and dance half the night.”

There is not a single account of Thomas Jefferson frequenting slave quarters. Nor did Jefferson take any interest in Hemings’ children. Randolph did, teaching all of Hemings’ sons to play the fiddle.

Randolph was an unmarried widower when Eston was conceived. After Randolph remarried, Hemings had no more children.

In response to DNA proof that only one of Hemings’ children was related to any Jefferson male -- and her firstborn son was definitely NOT fathered by any Jefferson -- the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, the Monticello Association and the National Genealogical Society promptly announced their official positions: Thomas Jefferson fathered all six of Hemings’ children! Guided tours of Monticello today include the provably false information that Jefferson fathered all of Hemings’ children.

So now you, at least, know the truth -- not that it matters in the slightest..."

So lets put this slanderous leftist rumor to bed once and for all.
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Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
What the heck kind of creature is that in your signature?


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Bulldogblitz
Member since Dec 2018
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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is truly bizarre.


What actually is not bizarre is that this is the third (and you bring the fourth) Aggie to attempt to split this (pubic) hair difference in defense of Epstein's and others interest in what, obviously, most of us consider underaged and off-limit humans. Your cult is definitely living up to the weird rumors and is actively expanding the breadth of the domain to include interest in having sex with people under the age of 18 down to what appears to be about 8 or 9.

Carry on cadets.


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Ollieoxenfree99
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
Someone check OPs home for a van with "Free Candy" spray painted on the side.


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JQBama
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BearsBDL
Member since Jul 2019
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
Sounds like you like em on the young side son


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RTM4
Texas Fan
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Member since Apr 2018
553 posts

re: Epstein is not a pedophile
Dude or woman, cis trans what the frick.

You are not from Texas ATM, I am a UT (TEXAS) grad and I can see you are trying to slag on that university.

You are the ultimate troll, what's your handle on that fig board surly bevo? Libtards all.


AggieHank86
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Member since Sep 2013
11818 posts

re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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You are not from Texas ATM, I am a UT (TEXAS) grad and I can see you are trying to slag on that university.
Your poor grammar and incomprehensible syntax confirm that you are indeed a ‘sip.


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ChexMix
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re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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and whether we like it or not 18 and up is legal!
So, do you like it or not?


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Lg
Alabama Fan
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Member since Jul 2011
4374 posts

re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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Not sure what this is supposed to mean.


Were you on here championing for Moore when he was called a pedophile for wanting to date 16-17 yo girls when he was 30. And I'm not a defender of Roy because he is a creep. Just looking for a little consistency.


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MrCarton
UNO Fan
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20160 posts

re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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Epstein is not a pedophile



I admire your attempt, but just a word of advice, this discussion never turns out well.


AggieHank86
Texas A&M Fan
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
11818 posts

re: Epstein is not a pedophile
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Epstein is not a pedophile
I admire your attempt, but just a word of advice, this discussion never turns out well.
Trying to impose literacy upon illiterates is seldom productive.


davyjones
LSU Fan
North Central, LA
Member since Feb 2019
2690 posts

re: Epstein is not a pedophile
I see what you're doing there. Although the facts may in the end show otherwise, yours is still a fair point. Unfortunately in this 2019 environment the first reaction for folks is typically to seek out something offensive or incorrect in what he/she is taking in.

Your topic is perhaps a little to definitive though.


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