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re: Electric vehicles - no charge. Dead robots.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:48 pm to SloaneRanger
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:48 pm to SloaneRanger
People...............or Dems?
You know that's two entirely different species right?
You know that's two entirely different species right?
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:49 pm to Strannix
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quote:eventually, it will be some type of supercharging alternator built in that charges as it drives with a different, lighter battery.
Physics isnt your strong suit is it.
I think he believes in a perpetual motion system installed in a vehicle where friction and heat do not exist.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:51 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:Yes, why wouldn't they be?
Are they?
quote:Ok, but then you use the reverse logic in the face of facts that EVs are growing and growing nowadays? Seems the market is speaking, and there is a growing market for EVs, based on your own logic. But now you're going to argue against your logic, is that what you're going to do?
But somehow the ones that burned gas won out in that capitalistic battle of survival of the fittest.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:52 pm to shel311
The EV buses purchased by the progfilth inhabiting northern climates have also failed spectacularly in cold weather.
Norway, Sweden, Madison WI (I know of that first hand), Chicago, etc, etc, etc.
Norway, Sweden, Madison WI (I know of that first hand), Chicago, etc, etc, etc.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:53 pm to shel311
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Ok, but then you use the reverse logic in the face of facts that EVs are growing and growing nowadays? Seems the market is speaking, and there is a growing market for EVs,
It's been pointed out to you a number of times the market has stagnated yet you continue to push this.
Typical true believer.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:55 pm to BuckyCheese
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This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 11:21 am
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:55 pm to shel311
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Seems the market is speaking, and there is a growing market for EVs,
You think the market is pushing EV growth?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:01 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:Can you compare EV growth in 2023 to the ICE market?
It's been pointed out to you a number of times the market has stagnated yet you continue to push this.
Typical true believer.
Your idea of a gotcha is the EV market growing at a 75% rate and going down to growing at a 50% rate is not the gotcha you think it is.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:02 pm to Flats
quote:More people want and are buying EVs now than ever before.
You think the market is pushing EV growth?
If you want to argue against facts, have fun with that.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:05 pm to shel311
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More people want and are buying EVs now than ever before.
If you want to argue against facts, have fun with that.
If I subsidized LG televisions more people would want an LG television than ever before. It might be a fact; I just wouldn't be dishonest enough to claim it was due to "the market".
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:08 pm to Flats
quote:There was a time span when Tesla buyers did not get the tax credits, so by your logic, Tesla sales would have plummeted during that time between when the subsidies went away and before they came back, correct?
If I subsidized LG televisions more people would want an LG television than ever before. It might be a fact; I just wouldn't be dishonest enough to claim it was due to "the market".
That's not even pointing out the dishonesty of ignoring the other side of those subsidies, but here you are...
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:10 pm to shel311
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and there is a growing market for EVs,
"Ford said customers in North America are unwilling to pay a premium for an EV. The company, in turn, is postponing about $12 billion in EV manufacturing investment."
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:11 pm to shel311
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so by your logic,
Are you suggesting that the economic maxim of "if you subsidize something you get more of that something" is just my logic? Just something false I whipped out to discuss EVs?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:15 pm to BeepNode
quote:100% this
The lure of a Tesla diminishes greatly if you don’t have your own charger.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:15 pm to theCrusher
quote:EV sales grew by roughly 50% in 2023.
"Ford said customers in North America are unwilling to pay a premium for an EV. The company, in turn, is postponing about $12 billion in EV manufacturing investment."
Which do you think holds more weight on a growing market, 1 company's struggles, or 50% growth in sales in the market as a whole?
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:17 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Just bought one for my tractor. Thanks for the idea.
It doesn't have glow plugs, but it does have a block heater and is currently sitting outside all warmed up and ready to roll.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:18 pm to Flats
I noticed you didn't answer the question.
Shouldn't Tesla sales and growth have stopped or at least slowed down once subsidies went away?
Shouldn't Tesla sales and growth have stopped or at least slowed down once subsidies went away?
quote:Now apply that logic to who received subsidies, as in, everyone who received subsidies, not just EVs, now what?
Are you suggesting that the economic maxim of "if you subsidize something you get more of that something" is just my logic? Just something false I whipped out to discuss EVs?
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:20 pm to shel311
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Shouldn't Tesla sales and growth have stopped or at least slowed down once subsidies went away?
They have.
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:21 pm to The Maj
:facepalm: They are cold bro
Posted on 1/16/24 at 2:25 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:They absolutely did not stop or slow down when the tax credits went away, so why not?
They have.
And again, your argument of going from 75 to 50% growth as some gotcha is pretty funny. No market is going to grow at hyper rates like that forever. And 50% is still HUGE growth, but you tried to downplay it.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 2:26 pm
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