re: Elderly White woman attacked on the X2.... gets off the bus, and the attackers do it agai

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I've said things I didn't mean when mixing it up.

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We all have.

However, not all of us make racial pejoratives a go-to. Hence my comment about racism running amok in these idiots' hearts.

Again, I'm not saying that choosing to use racial slurs as a go-to warrants being assaulted (like you said).

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I'm not going to assume she's racist for using it seconds after being assaulted.

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Man, if my first thought after being hit by a white or hispanic person is "this fricking cracker or sp*c," then I'm obviously harboring some racism (actually bigotry) in my heart. There's really no way around that.

I'm not saying you have to be all rainbows and butterflies in the wake of being assaulted, but if that's your response, then it does reveal something racist within you. Which, again, is one's right to harbor such. But you have to at least acknowledge that that's what it is, is all I'm saying.

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One party just acted WAY more out of line than the other. Do you agree with that?

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I believe they both acted way out of line.

From a legal perspective, though, those committing assault runs is more out of line with the law than speech protected under the 1A.

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I'm just trying to find out if Tbird considers racial slurs to be less or more egregious than assault.

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I do not, nor have I intimated such.

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I'm not saying it's my first thought but if my goal is to insult then it's obviously effective

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I mean, yeah, it's probably going to be effective if that's your goal.

It's also racist (bigoted), but I'm not trying to undersell the potential efficacy

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I would also expect someone to be attacked if they called a bunch of white bikers "sissies" (or some other name derogatory to gay people)

sometimes common sense has to be more important that relying on "what is acceptable"

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' Bikers ' ? Really ? That's the best comparison you can give to a random bunch of bus riders who beat a little old woman half to death ?

That should never happen. Ever. Period. End of story.

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' Bikers ' ? Really ? That's the best comparison you can give to a random bunch of bus riders who beat a little old woman half to death ?

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please see my clarification post on page 7

thanks

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Speech can be a catalyst in inciting violence, but it is not, in and of itself, an event legally worthy of physical retribution.

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meh, I would argue that it is and can be in certain situations

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Legally, they would be most culpable.

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and morally?

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I would argue that it is and can be in certain situations

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I'll cede ground on that, as I didn't make caveats for credible threats and such. My bad.

I'm strictly referring to speech protected by the 1A.