re: Economic Racism

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The idea that our culture is "white" is not only wrong, its retarded.

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I disagree with you and 808, at least to some extent.

But this is where cubbies seems to want to have it both ways.

(Disclaimer: the following is a hypothetical for entertainment purposes only. No statement made in this post is an admission of any of the possible actions listed below as a former employer).

When you scan resumes and see names like "Turkeeter" or "Jantaviavus" or "Shenequ'a" or "Martavious" (all actual examples), those resumes might go to the bottom of the pile.

And IF that is the case in this purely hypothetical scenario, it's not because you know those applicants are black. It's because you know that those applicants are steeped in black culture. You know that they will be MUCH more likely to be taking 15 bathroom breaks a day, quiet quitting, constantly stirring discontent, constantly being dissatisfied with something (everything), and—this is the big one—constantly assuming racism.

You know that if you finally have to fire Shenequ'a, she's going to claim racism and you're going to have an HR situation to have to deal with.

So Shenequ'a might not get the same consideration as other applicants, because no one wants to deal with that.

And again, it's not because Shenequ'a is black. It's because Shenequ'a is more likely to be antagonistic toward "white culture," which includes characteristics like being on time, working hard, and doing a good job. (Don't take my word for that, by the way, someone posted a chart somewhere in this thread that lists all of the characteristics that supposedly make up white culture and those are listed in that chart.)

To the Shenequ'as of the world, she's honor bound to resist those characteristics because she has been taught that they are inherently racist.

And as long as there are people in American society who see life that way, yes, there still is "white culture" and "black culture."

Sure, black culture relative to entertainment has been assimilated into white culture to a great degree, but as long as significant numbers of black people still think the idea that if you work hard you'll be rewarded is "racist," then we have ourselves a significant divide still.

Where I have argued with cubbies in the past is that it does not benefit black people to refuse to assimilate like that. Name your kids Dave and Ellen instead of Markeeth and Turkeeter. Teach them the value of education and work ethic instead of the idea that it doesn't matter what they do b/c Whitey will always be holding you down, so you might as well throw sand in Whitey's gears every chance you get, use every passive-aggressive method of resistance you can, and if anything goes wrong shout "racism" as long and as loud as you can.

She will admit or even be the first to cite the studies that show that applicants with black names don't get treated the same, yet somehow it still makes sense to her for black people to refuse to assimilate in that way.

I don't know why/how. She doesn't respond to me anymore.

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but I think you've likely missed out on some stellar applicants by disregarding them based solely on their names.

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He may have, we're talking bell curve, not absolutes.

The question is whether or not he's better off missing out on a few stellar applicants if he also misses out on more than a few headaches that are difficult and expensive to fire.

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Can you say more about this?

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Sure. You seem to think there's some utopian system described in "The Commons" that will get rid of stratification regarding how people live. That's preposterous. We don't all have the same drive, we don't all want the same things. Some will be content with their family of four living in 1000 square feet, others won't and they'll do whatever they need to do to afford a larger house. Now extrapolate that to where you live, clothing, transportation, food, etc etc etc and you get people who live fairly different lifestyles because that's what they're content with OR that's all their abilities are worth.

There's no economic system that will change that.

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Sure. You seem to think there's some utopian system described in "The Commons" that will get rid of stratification regarding how people live

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I wouldn't say it's "utopian," but there's no private property. It's hard to be better than your neighbor when neither of you own your dwelling.

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, we don't all want the same things.

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We don't all want the same luxuries, but if you remove mass consumption, we probably do all want very similar things. Good health, safety, leisure.. .

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mass consumption

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This needs defining

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 there's no private property

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Also needs defining.

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wouldn't say it's "utopian," but there's no private property. It's hard to be better than your neighbor when neither of you own your dwelling.

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Sounds dystopian

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How does "The Commons" work then?

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What you described is something completely different from The Commons.

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Also needs defining.

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parcels of land.

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Sounds dystopian

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It is.

Communists are only concerned about propping up people who dont have the desire to help themselves.

Ending private property is one if their biggest tenets, which means you have zero worth and how they want it.

They hate success and are insanely jealous and materialistic. They have no spiritual values.