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re: Dude won a girl’s JV race by over 2 minutes

Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:10 pm to
That chart comes from Militsa Mircheva, long-distance Olympic runner & national records holder at Florida State and Yolo Nikolov, professional athlete & trainer of Olympian runners.

They run a team that teaches long distance running athletes.

You’re mixing apples and oranges. The chart is a population-level performance guide, not a ranking of high school cross country recruits. No such chart exists, unfortunately.


Calling a 21-minute 5K ‘pretty bad’ for a 15-year-old ignores the fact that thousands of high school boys never even break 25 minutes.

Development isn’t linear, and dismissing someone at that stage says more about your lack of perspective than about their potential.

It's pathetic that he doesn't just train harder and smarter and see where it takes him. Hell, he isn't even hiding that he's still a boy, his name is Henry.
This post was edited on 9/14/25 at 11:11 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125695 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:20 pm to
He was running boys track at St. John Fisher in the spring of this year.

LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297836 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:21 pm to
Would be hilarious if he was just trolling...
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26092 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:23 pm to
I mean, he didn't even change his name.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125695 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

I would guess that he will never be a top girl's runner at distance.


Is that solace for you? What a fricked up response.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297836 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:31 pm to
Uh huh... Might be just manipulating the current insanity in his favor.
Posted by auie93
Auburn
Member since Jan 2021
808 posts
Posted on 9/14/25 at 11:52 pm to
That chart is nowhere close to what kids are running 5k's today. My son ran 17:00 in 9th grade and while he qualified to run at state for his team he did not score any points (finished 7th with top 5 on team scoring). He was never what would be considered elite but was able to run in college. The elite girls runner the year before won with a sub 17 time as an 8th or 9th grader.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37092 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 2:08 am to
quote:

Is that solace for you? What a fricked up response.
Solace in what? The other posters was trying to say the kid could develop into a decent boy's XC distance runner. From his time I would say no chance. Now could he place in some girl's race as a senior. Highly doubtful.

Likely he will be just as unathletic as you were.
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1870 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 3:45 am to
Wow so I guess real little girls can look up to that and admire it ..

Once again Clown world !!
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1744 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:02 am to
Who cares? This has been going on for long enough that the female participants and their parents should have taken a stand by now. They did not so they get what they deserve going forward.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
4012 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:39 am to
A 5K in 21 minutes? Lol what a joke. I could run sub-20 in HS without training, and I wasn’t even a runner.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125695 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 6:43 am to
Good try at a weak insult, fig.

The secondary argument is that these trannies shouldn’t be taking victories from the girls that the sport is literally created for.

The primary argument is that dudes are dudes. And chicks are chicks.

The argument is not “well, this kid isn’t going to be any good so who cares?”
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
751 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:16 am to
Those girls really fricking suck
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26092 posts
Posted on 9/15/25 at 7:41 am to
quote:

That chart is nowhere close to what kids are running 5k's today. My son ran 17:00 in 9th grade and while he qualified to run at state for his team he did not score any points (finished 7th with top 5 on team scoring). He was never what would be considered elite but was able to run in college. The elite girls runner the year before won with a sub 17 time as an 8th or 9th grader



If your son ran 17:00 as a freshman and still wasn’t scoring for his team, that’s not proof that 17:00 isn’t elite, it’s proof that he was on a stacked squad. Most freshmen nationwide would kill for a 17:00 5K.

According to MileSplit and Athletic.net data, the average boys’ 5K time in high school XC hovers around 20:00–21:00. A 17:00 as a freshman puts your son in the top 10–15% nationally.
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