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re: Drill Baby Drill!

Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:21 pm to
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Explain to me how Trump and/or Biden have significantly affected oil and gas production in either direction.


I said energy policy and you narrow it down to oil and gas production, with the inference that oil and gas production is domestic.

First of all energy policy is also foreign policy. The first thing Trump did when he he assume office is visit Mohamad bin Salam the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia at the 2017 Riyadh Summit. Trump worked out a deal to get the Saudis to produce more oil. I know this is not good for the O&G baws down in TX, OK and LA but it's good for the country. Low energy prices are good for the country and a major component of inflation.

Furthermore Trump is very laissez-faire in terms of domestic energy policy. He is a friend of the industry. Not an adversary.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:22 pm to
You can’t see the forest for the trees.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:24 pm to
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Here's a handy chart for you. Try to think about who was president, when



Looks like US oil production clearly increased during Trump's first term.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29593 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:24 pm to
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I said energy policy and you narrow it down to oil and gas production, with the inference that oil and gas production is domestic.


The thread title is a direct quote from Trump tonight... "Drill Baby Drill"

Presidents don't have the ability to "Drill." They have the ability to affect federal permits and pipeline construction, but that's about it. Not sure why that's unclear.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:25 pm to
I provided another chart just to show you how much Obama really influenced oil and gas production in the U.S.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:26 pm to
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I don't know who is saying 'drill baby drill' but that is exactly what we should be doing.


That IS exactly what we are doing. So far in 2023 we have been averaging 12.37 million barrels per day, which is a new record for our country. Barring some economic or political crisis, this will be the highest oil production year in US history, eclipsing 2019.

And right now, 2024 is expected to produce even more US oil.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27174 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:26 pm to
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You’re an idiot


Then explain how Trump or Biden have had any direct result on the cost of gas.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:30 pm to
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I provided another chart just to show you how much Obama really influenced oil and gas production in the U.S.



The bottom line is Trump is laissez-faire in terms of energy policy. He is a friend of the industry.

O&G production did not start increasing in the US due Obama's policies. Fracking technology took hold mostly in the Permian Basin and Marcellus Shale.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29593 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:30 pm to
Correct. Also Trump benefited from the fact that we exited a huge industry downturn in 2016. The rig count grew significantly because were coming off the trough in Fall of that year. But the upcycle in activity flattened out bigly in late 2018 going into 2019 due to factors that again have nothing to do with government activity or politics.

Now we are returning to record levels of production... under Biden.
Posted by DreauxB2015
Member since Nov 2015
7920 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:32 pm to
Lou “ Me cuck you long time “ Pai . You are seriously in for a rude awakening
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2393 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:33 pm to
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Trump worked out a deal to get the Saudis to produce more oil


Yes, he did. The deal was that Trump would claim the House of Saud was not responsible for the death of Jamal Khoshoggi. In exchange they would produce more oil.

Now, I don't really care too much about Khashoggi's death, but I don't think our President should absolve torturer/murderers of their responsibility.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29593 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:34 pm to
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The bottom line is Trump is laissez-faire in terms of energy policy. He is a friend of the industry.

O&G production did not start increasing in the US due Obama's policies. Fracking technology took hold mostly in the Permian Basin and Marcellus Shale.


The difference between the two is negligible in terms of real-world effects. Obama basically appointed some stooges to FERC and dragged his feet on Keystone but the true gamechanging for U.S. energy production happened while he was occupying the White House, despite his views. Because the president doesn't really have an effect.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19336 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:38 pm to
Be gentle with Louise tonight fellas, she's watching her Ronnie's campaign implode before it even leaves the launch pad.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166653 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:38 pm to
Kari Lake/Sarah Palin 2024

I would pay money to watch you melt over it. & this country would finally balance the fricking check book and cut spending like a woman knows how to do.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
41943 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:38 pm to
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Because the president doesn't really have an effect.


The perception of the president does though.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4103 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:38 pm to
You hit the nail on the head. Permits! And bumbling Joe has shut them down. Even the heads of the oil companies have brought it up time and again. There are plenty of ways to handcuff production and you know it.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29593 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:41 pm to
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The perception of the president does though.


They independent oil producers changed their religion DURING Trump in 2019.

Just look at how muted the rig count response was, by historical standards, during $100 oil, last year.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
166653 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:43 pm to
cream pai is as dumb as NavyTiger thinking the Iran Obama deal was nuanced.

drill baby drill cringes the ears of dumbasses and democrats.
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