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DRAGGING media for showing how desperately they CRAVE censorship for others
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:25 am
@ggreenwald
Yesterday was a flagship day in corporate media. It was the day they were forced to explicitly state what has long been clear: they not only favor censorship but desperately crave and depend on it.
Even if Musk doesn't buy Twitter, never forget what yesterday revealed.
In US culture, we're inculcated from childhood that censorship is bad. So of course nobody -- especially journalists -- wants to say: "I favor censorship."
That's why they need euphemisms like "content moderation": to pretend it's about bots, abuse, etc. rather than ideology.
Everyone knows they are lying. Nobody cares about Twitter censoring bots or spam. That's not what this is about.
The social media censorship people care about is 100% ideological: banning dissent on COVID, the Biden emails, culture war debates, etc. That's what's at stake.
Let's put it this way:
On Google/YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, you are free to say the 2000 and 2016 elections were stolen and fraudulent. You can't say that about 2020.
Before the 2020 election, you weren't allowed to post reporting on the Biden emails.
It's all ideological.
Throughout the COVID pandemic, you weren't allowed to question the efficacy of cloth masks. You weren't allowed to interrogate the origins of the virus. You weren't allowed to debate vaccines or lockdowns. No dissent from Fauci/WHO was allowed.
The censorship is 100% political.
You're allowed to spread any lies, propaganda and disinformation you want if it advances the Ukrainian cause (i.e., the US/NATO cause), but will be instantly banned if you say anything that challenges that on the ground of "Russia disinformation." This is all explicit.
Censorship of conservatives gets most attention because it's so common, but censorship of anti-establishment leftists is also frequent: any dissident can be banned.
Pretending this is about bots or spam is fraudulent. This censorship is about control of political information.
Social media was heralded as an innovation that would liberate individuals from centralized control by the state and oligarchical power over their speech.
It has become the exact opposite: the most powerful tool of information control and speech constraints ever devised.
How dumb do you have to be to believe that journalists - who work at Bloomberg and the Bezos-owned WPost or Comcast or CNN - are worried about billionaires controlling media (??).
They're only petrified that the *wrong* billionaire, one who may not censor for them, might reign.
7:23 AM · Apr 15, 2022
Yesterday was a flagship day in corporate media. It was the day they were forced to explicitly state what has long been clear: they not only favor censorship but desperately crave and depend on it.
Even if Musk doesn't buy Twitter, never forget what yesterday revealed.
In US culture, we're inculcated from childhood that censorship is bad. So of course nobody -- especially journalists -- wants to say: "I favor censorship."
That's why they need euphemisms like "content moderation": to pretend it's about bots, abuse, etc. rather than ideology.
Everyone knows they are lying. Nobody cares about Twitter censoring bots or spam. That's not what this is about.
The social media censorship people care about is 100% ideological: banning dissent on COVID, the Biden emails, culture war debates, etc. That's what's at stake.
Let's put it this way:
On Google/YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, you are free to say the 2000 and 2016 elections were stolen and fraudulent. You can't say that about 2020.
Before the 2020 election, you weren't allowed to post reporting on the Biden emails.
It's all ideological.
Throughout the COVID pandemic, you weren't allowed to question the efficacy of cloth masks. You weren't allowed to interrogate the origins of the virus. You weren't allowed to debate vaccines or lockdowns. No dissent from Fauci/WHO was allowed.
The censorship is 100% political.
You're allowed to spread any lies, propaganda and disinformation you want if it advances the Ukrainian cause (i.e., the US/NATO cause), but will be instantly banned if you say anything that challenges that on the ground of "Russia disinformation." This is all explicit.
Censorship of conservatives gets most attention because it's so common, but censorship of anti-establishment leftists is also frequent: any dissident can be banned.
Pretending this is about bots or spam is fraudulent. This censorship is about control of political information.
Social media was heralded as an innovation that would liberate individuals from centralized control by the state and oligarchical power over their speech.
It has become the exact opposite: the most powerful tool of information control and speech constraints ever devised.
How dumb do you have to be to believe that journalists - who work at Bloomberg and the Bezos-owned WPost or Comcast or CNN - are worried about billionaires controlling media (??).
They're only petrified that the *wrong* billionaire, one who may not censor for them, might reign.
7:23 AM · Apr 15, 2022
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Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:29 am to Jbird
Glenn is a good liberal. The type that would probably say you know what, let's all agree to disagree and have a beer.
While I think liberalism is dangerous and morally wrong. His type is the type we can coexist with because he's not an authoritarian psycho. Same with Russell Brand who is almost certainly a true believing anarcho marxist of some kind.
While I think liberalism is dangerous and morally wrong. His type is the type we can coexist with because he's not an authoritarian psycho. Same with Russell Brand who is almost certainly a true believing anarcho marxist of some kind.
This post was edited on 4/15/22 at 9:30 am
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:32 am to Jbird
The thing that escapes me is how can they benefit from this. Sinking numbers, getting caught in lies, retractions bigly, etc. They know we know they suck, yet they continue the charade.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 9:48 am to idlewatcher
quote:lt's pathological. I remember the day my brother was caught smoking by my dad. I was with my dad. We came around the corner of the back garage to get his Scout for a hunting trip and there was my brother, age 15, smoke all around him from the cigarette in his hand and my dad said, incredulously, " are you smoking a cigarette?"
The thing that escapes me is how can they benefit from this. Sinking numbers, getting caught in lies, retractions bigly, etc. They know we know they suck, yet they continue the charade.
My brother, caught off guard, chokingly blew out the smoke to his side away from us, (as if that smoke might not be seen), and said, "No sir!" then flipped the cigarette away from us behind him.
It's the same way with media. They respond with lies and obfuscation, even when it's clear and plain to see that it is just the automated denial of truth that's been programmed into them.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 10:00 am to idlewatcher
quote:
The thing that escapes me is how can they benefit from this. Sinking numbers, getting caught in lies, retractions bigly, etc. They know we know they suck, yet they continue the charade.
It’ll continue until it’s proven to them conclusively that they don’t control enough of the information flow to control the population.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 10:04 am to Jbird
What happens when the peasants aren't allowed to criticize the lordship?
This won't last long.
This won't last long.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 10:18 am to Jbird
I am firmly convinced that the MIC invented social
Media and made Zuckerberg, Google Schmidt and Jack Dorsey billionaires so it could control them, and also control social interaction and information.
After all- the Internet was originally conceived by the DOD.
Even if the Gvt didn’t invent Twitter - I think that the freak out about musk taking over Twitter is bc the machine is terrified that Musk will discover the true extent that state action is manipulating discourse. The Gvt does so by paying these companies bajillions of dollars to covertly spy on Americans in order to control them. The globalists and leftists that control the MIC, the Uniparty and the Biden Regime - are the same people controlling MSM.
It’s a front in the information war that the new world order, the grotesque marriage of big government and big business is waging on freedom and individual rights.
frick all of it. I hope Elon burns it down.
Media and made Zuckerberg, Google Schmidt and Jack Dorsey billionaires so it could control them, and also control social interaction and information.
After all- the Internet was originally conceived by the DOD.
Even if the Gvt didn’t invent Twitter - I think that the freak out about musk taking over Twitter is bc the machine is terrified that Musk will discover the true extent that state action is manipulating discourse. The Gvt does so by paying these companies bajillions of dollars to covertly spy on Americans in order to control them. The globalists and leftists that control the MIC, the Uniparty and the Biden Regime - are the same people controlling MSM.
It’s a front in the information war that the new world order, the grotesque marriage of big government and big business is waging on freedom and individual rights.
frick all of it. I hope Elon burns it down.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 11:01 am to Jbird
quote:This is a really good point. Worth remembering.
Censorship of conservatives gets most attention because it's so common, but censorship of anti-establishment leftists is also frequent: any dissident can be banned.
Posted on 4/15/22 at 11:02 am to LSURep864
quote:
Glenn is a liberal
I corrected this, removing the word "good" because Glenn Greenwald is being an actual "liberal", not a "progressive" (left-wing authoritarian).
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