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re: Draft Order | Department of Education to be eliminated.

Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26878 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:18 am to
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his reason or what he would replace it with.


The question should be, "Do we need a DoE?".

Is it necessary and/or worth over a quarter of a trillion dollars annually?

We should not assume that spending $268B on the DoE every year is improving our education. Are there some functions that are worth the investment? Probably. But we don't necessarily need a separate department for that.

Congress always assumes that their usefulness is directly proportional to the amount of money they spend. That's how we got into this financial mess in the first place...
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11384 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 10:53 am to
I think the ~15% of the average state's funding for education from the federal government (this is the national average, some states are more and I sort of assume that many of them are red states tbh) is needed. Trump is not promising to do anything about what reaches the states funding-wise from what I've gathered but we'll see how that looks in practice.

The way I'm reading this the plan seems to be:

Review everything the Dept of Ed is doing, end programs or interpretations of execution that are not explicitly defined in statute, and delegate as much as they can according to the law to other departments. My guess is that the Dept of Ed is not going to be ended by legislation and some functions will be legally obligated to be fulfilled by the executive after interpretation from the judicial.

The point was not to end the funding because that is a bad idea for electoral success because public education is rubber-meets-road interface with the government for so many households in this country. The point was to end the practice of using federal funding as a carrot to elicit certain behaviors from states. This is how the much talked about "national divorce" will look like: every state gets a hand out from the federal government and the red states and blue states can do with it what they please.

The problem with this is the GOP cannot help itself and they'll inevitably end up weaponizing what little enforcement is left in the Dept of Ed to browbeat liberal states over bullshite cultural hot button issues conservative media uses to keep their base politically engaged. The key to the red states doing what they want is allowing the same of the blue states. They won't, so this will end up just being a repeated tear-down, restoration cycle every 4-8 years. And it will ultimately not help the ground level school and the communities using it.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 10:55 am
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 11:16 am to
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Not if Congress can get these EOs codified into law.


Let them play that hand
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7120 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:28 pm to
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The only thing they do that needs to continue (until we can get universities and college tuition under control) is student aid. And that can be moved to Treasury.


That's in the FSA agency, could probably move that whole agency over or something. They also handle existing student loans, or keep track of them, not necessarily manage them.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14132 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:31 pm to
They will… this is simple theatre for the masses
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7698 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:32 pm to
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coked up roid fueled wrestlers

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actors they're actors


In 80 s and prior especially, most were former football players or college wrestlers.

Additionally, they loved to fight.
Could lose job if beaten up, as it looked bad.

Those Baws could almost all throw hands. Especially in 80s.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:40 pm to
We can bring the Dems to extinction if we keep being aggressive.
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