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re: Dr. Jordan B. Peterson slams Pharasaical pretender Candace Owens
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:29 am to Lou Pai
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:29 am to Lou Pai
I haven’t been following the Candace Owens drama so I don’t know what the antisemitism charge is about, but:
1) Jesus Christ is King
2) Jews reject Christ (except for any ethnic Jews who are Christians)
3) Jordan Peterson seems to think the Bible is mythology that relays some truths about humanity but isn’t to be understood as relaying truth about history (I saw a somewhat recent interview/debate he had where when pressed on the resurrection of Jesus, he wasn’t sure if it happened. That historical reality is a critical component of Christianity).
4) The Bible teaches that the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Spirit, which at least in the Reformed tradition is the full and final rejection of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
1) Jesus Christ is King
2) Jews reject Christ (except for any ethnic Jews who are Christians)
3) Jordan Peterson seems to think the Bible is mythology that relays some truths about humanity but isn’t to be understood as relaying truth about history (I saw a somewhat recent interview/debate he had where when pressed on the resurrection of Jesus, he wasn’t sure if it happened. That historical reality is a critical component of Christianity).
4) The Bible teaches that the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Spirit, which at least in the Reformed tradition is the full and final rejection of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:32 am to FooManChoo
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I haven’t been following the Candace Owens drama so I don’t know what the antisemitism charge is about
She's like two steps behind Kanye down the rabbit hole.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:41 am to stuntman
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I like Peterson, but he's off his rocker here.
Team Daily Wire are Israel first types (except maybe Matt Walsh), and they are going after Candice for not supporting Zionism.
Did Candace mention Israel in her complaints about Shapiro, Boring, or Peterson?
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:44 am to GumboPot
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Their message at the Daily Wire is if you are not an Israel Firster and don't support Bibi you are not Christian.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:45 am to Azkiger
It's why she got fired from the Daily Wire. This is known.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:48 am to stuntman
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It's why she got fired from the Daily Wire. This is known.
You said "here". Here is referring to a specific place in time.
Candace just called out Boring, Shapiro, and Peterson for vague complaints, among was their seemingly cozy relationship with Praeger, who she was upset with on his views on pornography.
Peterson responded to a specific Candace statement.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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In this case, dishonest grifters (Candace Owens)
I kind of agree with Peterson here. Dont get me wrong, I have no issue with what Candace is doing that said shes coming off as quite the judgemental one.
Again, I like Candace but Peterson has some ground.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:50 am to GumboPot
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DW started it. They mad because Candace has always used and uses the phrase Christ is King because she wears here Christianity on her sleeve. It's her way of evangelizing and the DW does not like it.
Walsh and Knowles are Christian AF and are doing fine at the DW.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:52 am to GumboPot
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First of all, taking Christian advice from an avowed atheist like Peterson?
Peterson isn't an atheist. As others mentioned, he's a self proclaimed "pragmatic Christian" who is on his way to becoming Christian. He had a master class type special with several academics discussing Christianity and the Bible, and the positive influence of Christianity.
Owens is a drama queen. She exists to say wild things for clicks.
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GumboPot
I seriously don't understand people like you who praise the most outspoken attention seeking social media types over actual intelligent people. Owens, Tate Bros, etc... And then blaming everything on Zionism? What is Peterson stating in this exchange with Owens in particular that deals with Zionism?
Owens lost a lot of respect from me a few years ago when she went on Rogan and was made to look rather foolish. Some of her more recent "headlines" were for attention and nothing more. Beware the grifters.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:53 am to Azkiger
Who do you think Klaven was talking about here?
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:55 am to stuntman
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Who do you think Klaven was talking about here?
Is Andrew Klavan Jordan Peterson?
I asked you specifically if Candace mentioned Israel in her DW call out and now you're all over the place.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:57 am to Azkiger
Like I said in my original statement, they are team Daily Wire.
ETA; And she did talk about the Jewish angle being the reason they are bashing her.
If you're interested, you can hear her in her own words;
ETA; And she did talk about the Jewish angle being the reason they are bashing her.
If you're interested, you can hear her in her own words;
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 9:00 am
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:02 am to BugAC
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I seriously don't understand people like you who praise the most outspoken attention seeking social media types over actual intelligent people. Owens, Tate Bros, etc
There's a major divide on the right and modern social media really caters to the conspiratorial, irrational type.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:03 am to stuntman
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And she did talk about the Jewish angle being the reason they are bashing her.
Who called out who first?
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:08 am to Azkiger
Don't know for sure. I don't listen to either of them daily.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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Both, among other things.
Peterson isn't, and hasn't professed to be, a Christian.
His wife converted. He has not.
He's been given ample platforms to say as much, but he will not. As long as he's connected to Ben Shapiro, he's not going to do so, either. Peterson really likes being the Third Rail. He wants to be taken seriously by the intellectual types, while also being seen as a thought leader on the right. If he converts, he loses face with the intellectuals. If he doesn't, he loses his base to Owens and the emerging Christian right.
He'll find himself being abandoned by both. I have a lot of respect for Peterson, and can honestly say I used to read a lot of his work and watch his college lectures. He's not the same man he once was.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:18 am to stuntman
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Don't know for sure. I don't listen to either of them daily.
But you know Jordan's take here isn't right, and that they're certainly the ones bashing her. Got it.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:22 am to RoyalAir
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he loses his base to Owens and the emerging Christian right.
If you stop listening to Jordan Peterson to take life advice from Candace Owens
Goodness gracious
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:26 am to idlewatcher
As much as I have liked CO attacking JP who I have admired and his daughter a while back which made no sense is getting out of hand.
C.O is very smart ; has great verbal skills but does come across as a narcissistic at times. Your just not going to get the best of her in a verbal altercation.
C.O is very smart ; has great verbal skills but does come across as a narcissistic at times. Your just not going to get the best of her in a verbal altercation.
Posted on 3/14/25 at 9:27 am to FooManChoo
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I haven’t been following the Candace Owens drama so I don’t know what the antisemitism charge is about, but:
1) Jesus Christ is King
Here is the problem. Candace and conservative grift inc want you to believe the debate is about whether “Christ is King is anti semetic”
Of course it’s not. Are there some bad actors who are trying to make that point, especially Jewish bad actors? Of course.
It is a ridiculous argument to make but Candace wants every argument against her framed within that narrative. That’s why she keeps saying “They are trying to divide Christians.” When in reality most people are just calling her out for what she is. A grifter who drifts from issue to issue and milks it for all it’s worth.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 9:28 am
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