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re: Don't push your morals on me!
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:55 am to gamatt53
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:55 am to gamatt53
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I would assume it is because one side is bringing some kind of fact based argument to the table and the other side is bringing emotion based arguments based on an old fiction book.
Of course. That’s what those wrapped up purely in the emotion of their side usually assume.
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:55 am to Ebbandflow
You're denying that these progressive/environmental movements have very similar religious characteristics?
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:55 am to gamatt53
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Everything is technically a moral issue not sure what the point of this thread is.
Then you’re being daft. Hopefully it’s intentional.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:57 am to Revelator
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Where are the historical facts that socialism works?
Not sure what socialism has to do with Christianity based moral aguments?
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:57 am to Jcorye1
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Governments are not designed to be morals police.
What do you think the justice system is for?
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:58 am to Revelator
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Why is it if a Christian person tries to influence society by either preaching the gospel, trying to use groups or coalitions to change laws or using social media to push causes, characterized as trying to push their morals on others.
Because people have a right to their opinions.
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But, when a progressive tries to push their ecological demands, strained definitions about sexuality or irrational gun ownership restrictions on me, it isn't defined as a push to force their morals on me?
Isn't it? You have the same right to characterize it as such.
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How is trying to force me under penalty of law to call a man with a penis a woman, not a moral issue?
If it's a moral issue to you, it's a moral issue.
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How is forcing me under the penalty of law to buy health insurance not a moral issue?
If it's against your morals, it's a moral issue.
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How is forcing me to pay through taxes for people who refuse to work not a moral issue?
Again, if it's a moral issue to you, it's a moral issue.
The problem comes in when we have conflicting morals in our society. The best we can hope for is an equitable compromise. I know compromising morals seems unprincipled, but it's really the only solution. The best that you can do is stay in the fight and represent your side rationally, and with dignity.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:58 am to dcbl
It’s no coincidence that the more this country steers away from God the more chaotic and immoral people get.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 11:59 am to Revelator
No. The laws do not derive from religion. The Founders and the writers of the Constitution varied in their religious beliefs.
“Some of the Founders were conventional Christians and some were not, but the belief in a deity implied in the Declaration was sincere and likely universal among the delegates to both the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. And a belief in the possibility of divine favor was held by even some of the least religious Founders. So, again, why no invocation of God in the second major founding document?”
“The threefold answer lies in the stated purposes of the Constitution, its religious neutrality, and the theory of government it embodies. Whereas the Declaration explained and justified a rebellion to secure God-given rights, the Constitution is a blueprint for stable and effective republican government in a free country. The Preamble to the Constitution declares that its purposes are “to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty.” These are wholly secular objects; religious references are extraneous in a document drafted to further them.”
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“Some of the Founders were conventional Christians and some were not, but the belief in a deity implied in the Declaration was sincere and likely universal among the delegates to both the Continental Congress and the Constitutional Convention. And a belief in the possibility of divine favor was held by even some of the least religious Founders. So, again, why no invocation of God in the second major founding document?”
“The threefold answer lies in the stated purposes of the Constitution, its religious neutrality, and the theory of government it embodies. Whereas the Declaration explained and justified a rebellion to secure God-given rights, the Constitution is a blueprint for stable and effective republican government in a free country. The Preamble to the Constitution declares that its purposes are “to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty.” These are wholly secular objects; religious references are extraneous in a document drafted to further them.”
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Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:00 pm to gamatt53
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Not sure what socialism has to do with Christianity based moral aguments?
The poster said Christian morals were based in emotion and fairytales and progressive ideas based in facts. I want him to show me where are the historical facts that socialism works.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:01 pm to Brazos
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It’s no coincidence that the more this country steers away from God the more chaotic and immoral people get.
Violent crime rates have been trending down for quite a while
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:05 pm to Revelator
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The poster said Christian morals were based in emotion and fairytales and progressive ideas based in facts. I want him to show me where are the historical facts that socialism works.
I would assume if a progressive was arguing in favor of socialism they would point towards Denmark or another Nordic country for their “facts”(notice the quotes I’m not advocating for socialism).
I can’t see a scenario where a Christian is arguing against a progressive about socialism using the Bible as their compass in real life however.
This post was edited on 1/27/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:05 pm to gamatt53
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Violent crime rates have been trending down for quite a while
They realized that more money can be legally stolen though taxation instead of the point of a gun.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:07 pm to Revelator
You think taxation is more chaotic and immoral than a gun?
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:07 pm to upgrayedd
I'm just saying I've never seen a scientist warned me about anything religious but I've seen them warned me about things involving the environment. One that I believe could affect me and when I believe probably will not
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:08 pm to gamatt53
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Denmark or another Nordic country for their “facts”(
In socialist countries, industries and businesses are operated by the government. This isn't the case in the Scandinavian countries.
It is true that their taxation rate is really high and their healthcare is socialistic in nature, but they aren't socialist countries in the true sense of the word.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:10 pm to Revelator
Progressives honestly think they have moral high ground. Virtual signaling is subconscious to them at this point. Even when confronted with facts - their emotions are the only thing that matters.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:10 pm to gamatt53
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I can’t see a scenario where a Christian is arguing against a progressive about socialism using the Bible as their compass in real life however. This post was edited on 1/27 at 12:05 pm
Easy. The Bible says that a person who doesn't work shouldn't eat, and it also says no one should be under compulsion to give.
Taxation used to distribute wealth is theft.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:11 pm to gamatt53
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You think taxation is more chaotic and immoral than a gun?
Yes. A gun can only rob a few at a time. Taxation can rob on a global scale.
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:11 pm to dcbl
I agree with you
Posted on 1/27/19 at 12:13 pm to Revelator
Once they took the word of god out from schools our country started to go to shite. I thought with Trump we would get someone bringing back Christian values. But that fake media won’t even lett the word of Jesus Christ get into our children’s mouths.
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