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re: DOJ admitted 4 of 4 FISAs were illegal. They all knew and signed anyway.

Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:08 pm to
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This is literal treason, right? Penalty is death, right?

Yes, if not that, then at least sedition.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464991 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:09 pm to
Yeah where in that does your rule apply to criminal prosecutions?

Hint: you (and the online content creator who you learned this from) are using the civil standard when discussing criminal SOLs.

The criminal SOL (from your link)

quote:

For criminal prosecutions brought by the government, the statute of limitations is five years. Unlike the civil time limit, this deadline is derived from a general federal statute, 18 U.S.C. § 3282. This law acts as a “catch-all” provision, setting a five-year deadline for any non-capital federal crime where Congress has not specified a different time limit. Federal prosecutors must bring an indictment for criminal RICO violations within five years of the offense.


To be more specific, it's 5 years from the last act of the purported conspiracy. When that last act is discovered is not relevant.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26005 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:12 pm to
Thats not how I read it counselor. It merely mentioned bringing a case.I didn't see where the explanation differentiated..

It discussed the statute for civil and criminal cases and THEN talked about when the clock starts.Pretty self explanatory to me perhaps your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:12 pm to
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then at least sedition.


How can any act purportedly against Trump be sedition prior to him being sworn in as President?

Until that point he's not, "the Government of the United States", or in any way part of it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:14 pm to
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. It merely mentioned bringing a case


A claim, which is civil.

Just read the case they cite, Rotella v. Wood. Here is a summary

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The U.S. Supreme Court held that the "injury and pattern discovery" rule does not govern the start of the limitations period for civil RICO claims.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:17 pm to


... no doubt in my mind, that's for sure ...

Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:18 pm to
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An older standard was the “last predicate act rule,” where the clock would restart with every new criminal act.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:18 pm to
Xxxxx is a throw away email address. Let me know when you have this and I’ll delete. I have some secure encrypted stuff we can speak on.
This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 10:32 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464991 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:20 pm to
Yes a civil RICO suit requires a criminal act. Predicate criminal acts are required for all uses of RICO, criminal or civil.

You're still talking about the civil SOL. I literally posted you a summary of the USSC case cite that makes it clear that case is only discussing the civil SOL.

Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3723 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:22 pm to


... and now I can officially say:

IT'S HAPPENING. !!!!!!


Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36867 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:23 pm to
Might be a dumb question, but how easy/what is the process to get the SOL windows changed retroactively like they did with some of Trumps “crimes” and cases?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26005 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:23 pm to
Let's say youre right. Every swinging dick of them are civilly liable.Donald J Trump could and should bring a massive RICO lawsuit against every single one of them.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464991 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:26 pm to
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Might be a dumb question, but how easy/what is the process to get the SOL windows changed retroactively like they did with some of Trumps “crimes” and cases?

It would take an act of Congress, but is almost assuredly illegal for criminal cases. The NY law that was changed was for civil suits, not criminal prosecutions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464991 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:28 pm to
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Let's say youre right. Every swinging dick of them are civilly liable.Donald J Trump could and should bring a massive RICO lawsuit against every single one of them.

With the 4-year SOL, Trump would have to argue he "should have known" about them after October 3, 2021. That dog won't hunt, just look at the LINK I posted from 2020. The "should have known" existed at least by that time.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3723 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:28 pm to


... got it, but I still owe a LOT of people free beers ...

may take a while


Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8121 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:34 pm to
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The "should have known" existed at least by that time.


As you are gloating and smelling your own farts over your post from 2020, keep in mind that a continuing conspiracy does not have a SOL.

The coup has been happening since 2016-17 and is continuing by actions, statements, lies and deceit by the conspirators.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464991 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:36 pm to
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keep in mind that a continuing conspiracy does not have a SOL.


That's a whole nother conspiracy theory and not the reality we are discussing

Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
11965 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:39 pm to
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Then, tell us that this was all investigated and no wrong doing was found

There's that, too. Will hurt any attempted prosecution. This has already been reviewed by multiple agencies and bodies years ago.


Called it… hahahahahahahahahahaha
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10603 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:39 pm to
No rush.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26005 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 10:53 pm to
We'll see if it will hunt soon enough.
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