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re: DOGE kills $18M/mo scam in San Antonio - migrant shelter 'nonprofit' was empty

Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:22 pm to
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then why would there be unused money?


Because they weren't housing anyone. The expenses involved with actually taking care of people did not exist.

The costs they bore were to have a facility and supplies at the ready. The costs to house the people would have been far higher.

Thus, there should be millions upon millions of dollars of unused funds.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Because they weren't housing anyone.

Space X isn’t housing anyone either. Are they committing fraud? Neither this contract, nor the Space X contracts are to house people. The contract in question is to have facilities in a state of readiness in case it is needed.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:38 pm to
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The contract in question is to have facilities in a state of readiness in case it is needed.


Show me the contract. You imply they are just renting space, whereas "to have facilities in a state of readiness in case it is needed" would imply there is much more to it.

If this huge sum is just for rent, then i would believe it is fraud based on the values being presented.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:48 pm to
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Well Bucko, ya might want to hold off on spendin any of that "savings" cuz old Elon might have zaggerated things a bit. 


MSM propaganda has no place here
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41747 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:50 pm to
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The contract in question is to have facilities in a state of readiness in case it is needed.


They aren’t needed when the border is protected, so the spending is waste fraud and or corruption
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 2:54 pm to
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The contract was to maintain capability to handle overflow. It was supposed to remain empty until it was needed. As I wrote in my previous post, it is wasteful government spending, but it is not illegal - at least not based on what we know.


So, other than rent, it shouldn't have much if any operating expenses
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/3/25 at 3:12 pm to
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So, other than rent, it shouldn't have much if any operating expenses

I have no idea, nor does it matter. It was probably a very shitty contract for America and wildly profitable for the contractor. But none of that matters to the question: Should the CEO be jailed? Answer: No, because he faithfully executed on a legitimate contract.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 3:48 pm to
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Should the CEO be jailed? Answer: No, because he faithfully executed on a legitimate contract.


Maybe, but maybe not. You have no idea if he "faithfully executed" the contract.

We don't know on most all of these contracts with astronomical dollars attached to them whether the dollars were spent on what they were granted for.

I am all for auditing these contracts to see where the money went.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Maybe, but maybe not. You have no idea if he "faithfully executed" the contract.

Well okay, you're right. I didn't post my exact thoughts, which are, "Based on what we know..."
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 3:59 pm to


Unfortunately, it looks like "based on what we know..." has been a pretty big mountain of lies, deceit and fraud.

Let's get everything out in the open so we can reform the system and make it right.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:36 pm to
But but... Where is the PROOF?!! Elon and DOGE are just saying they're finding these things... Where is the proof?!!!! REEEEEEEEEE!!!!

- TDS nerds
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:38 pm to
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This is how they were paying off all the folks who helped them steal the 2020 election. Gotta give it to the democrats, they are slick and they play to win.


100% and now they are getting the karma they deserve. However, I am still waiting for arrests. I like cutting off the cash spicket, don't get me wrong, but I want to see some fricking perp walks soon.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:39 pm to
MSDNC link. Wow.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Sadly, you were serious.


Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:43 pm to
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We all knew that there was skimming off the top, but it's unreal how much


shite, this is straight up stealing pallets of taxpayer cash level of corruption.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:43 pm to
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MSNBC???? Give me a damn break!!! LMAO

Probably the least trusted media source on the planet. Pure DNC propaganda


Not to the 10 leftist libtards who still watch it. It is gospel and "real news."
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:46 pm to
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Space X isn’t housing anyone either. Are they committing fraud?


Is Space X's deal to house people? To House Migrants? If it was and that's what they were receiving tax payer money to do and holding themselves out as doing, but were not, you think that's still legal?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28582 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:47 pm to
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So he knows the building is empty, allocating funds for necessities for people that don't exist, he and his ilk are getting rich, but he's innocent? Are you in the mafia?

No, he’s a Republican, just like the scammers in Texas. Laws don’t apply to them.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13760 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Should the CEO be jailed? Answer: No, because he faithfully executed on a legitimate contract.


What fricking planet are you living on? If you're lying to the federal government about what you're NGO is doing to receive millions in tax payer funding, and you're not doing that at all, yet you're STILL collecting the money without making any expenditures on what your organization held itself out as doing... You don't think that arises to a level of criminality? You think that's legal and not in violation of any law?

Okay.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55573 posts
Posted on 3/3/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Is Space X's deal to house people? To House Migrants?

No. Now you seem to be getting the idea. If a deal isn't to house people then you can't go to jail for not housing people. Like for Space X. Got it?

Okay, we are one step away, so I need you to concentrate. The deal in question also wasn't to house people. It was to provide standby capacity to house people.
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