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re: Does Israel have nuclear weapons?

Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:04 pm to
Notice what country's stockpiles are going down. :/
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:04 pm to
Everyone goes into a hoopla when North Korea got a missile, same with Iran trying to. Was there that kind of backlash when Pakistan was getting them? Idk how in the hell the world allowed Pakistan to have them.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:05 pm to
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I think he was meaning the US would send one thru the air to their location of choice if anyone fkd with them.


I mean they can go nuclear anytime they want.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Yeah, as well as other countries have eliminated some as well too correct?

I’m not aware of any nation other than SA which gave up their own domestic nuclear weapons program. Some of the Soviet republics transferred weapons to Russia after the USSR collapsed, but those weapons were part of the Soviet program, not homegrown Ukrainian or Kazakh, etc.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:06 pm to
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Most don’t have ICBM capabilities that can strike the US.


China didn't until the Clintons sold them the technology for campaign cash.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:07 pm to
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China didn't until the Clintons sold them the technology for campaign cash.


That is just a terrible thing to say. I wish it wasn't true.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:07 pm to
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I think he was meaning the US would send one thru the air to their location of choice if anyone fkd with them.

No I meant Japan on their own. I’m sure we provided tech and support, but they have all the pieces for their own domestic program. It’s just against their public policy for now to actually develop it.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:08 pm to
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China didn't until the Clintons sold them the technology for campaign cash.

Let’s not pretend like China wouldn’t have stolen the tech by now anyway.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:08 pm to
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The Kingdom holds title to several weapons in Pakistan's possession.

I didn’t know that. Frightening.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:09 pm to
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SA


They worked jointly with Israel on the program. I don't know what the official paperwork looks like, but I always assumed they turned everything over to Israel.
Posted by LRB1967
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:09 pm to
Isreal has plenty of nuclear weapons.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:10 pm to
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I didn’t know that. Frightening.


They paid most of the costs of Pakistan's program. They view that as Sunni Islam's nuclear capacity.
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:11 pm to
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I’m not aware of any nation other than SA which gave up their own domestic nuclear weapons program. Some of the Soviet republics transferred weapons to Russia after the USSR collapsed, but those weapons were part of the Soviet program, not homegrown Ukrainian or Kazakh, etc.


Ahh, okay.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:18 pm to
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Let’s not pretend like China wouldn’t have stolen the tech by now anyway.


I'd rather them steal the technology than have it sold to them by a candidate for POTUS.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:29 pm to
Along with the Sampson Doctrine!!
Posted by dr
texas
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:34 pm to
and maybe a doomsday one. that rumor was the basis for stanleys movie

dr strangelove movie
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:38 pm to
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Is it weird that Japan doesn't have a nuclear arms program?


Not any weirder than the fact that Germany doesn't. Starting world wars has consequences.
Posted by Swamp Angel
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:50 pm to
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Is it weird that Japan doesn't have a nuclear arms program?


Japan's post-WWII constitution states that they may not ever have nuclear weapons, nor may they spend more than 2% of their GNP on defense. This was included as a part of their constitution with the understanding that the United States would defend them in the event of a future attack that may threaten their sovereignty.
Posted by JAXTiger16
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 3:01 pm to
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Is it weird that Japan doesn't have a nuclear arms program?


They don’t even have a military, they are only allowed to have a self defense force although it’s been in talks of changing. They don’t need them anyway and are completely attached to our hip militarily
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 3:11 pm to
Looks like the US is the only Nation with a shrinking number of nukes, France and Isreal are even and every other nation is increasing their supply.


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