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Doctors not allowed to give flu shots to migrant children

Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:50 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:50 pm
What are your thoughts on this?

Personally, it doesn't seem to make much sense. Flu shots are pretty much given away anyway. You can get a free one at most drug stores.

Is there some real harm in letting them get the flu vaccine?

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"People die of the flu, but the people who have died of the flu in CPB custody, it was completely preventable,” Dr. Julie Sierra said. “Keeping people in hygienic conditions and not overcrowding them and giving them soap and access to showers, that can help prevent illness. But nothing prevents the flu like a flu vaccine.”

At least three children in U.S. immigration custody died from flu infections during the 2018 flu season. That’s nine times the mortality rate of the general pediatric population, according to Doctors for Camp Closure.


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Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:52 pm to
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Doctors not allowed to give flu shots to migrant children
sounds bad

has this been verified by a credible source?
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:55 pm to
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Doctors not allowed to give flu shots to illegal aliens
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:55 pm to
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has this been verified by a credible source?


It's a local news outlet from South Carolina

I suppose it might take some additional research

Are you usually this immediately skeptical or just when you hear something that makes you uncomfortable?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:56 pm to
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Doctors not allowed to give flu shots to illegal aliens

What difference does it make?
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:57 pm to
What if we just give them the flue instead? This should make the social-prog filth happy...
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:58 pm to
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What difference does it make?
what the frick different does it make whether you post "migrant" or "illegal alien"? Is that what you're asking?
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:00 am to
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sounds bad

has this been verified by a credible source?


It sounds bad since you have no context. A group of 20 random doctors and nurses protesting showed up wanting to inject an unknown substance into detainees there. Any world you think they are going to give a green light on that?

The reason vaccination isn’t in place is the kids are there only 72 hours usually and if remaining in longer term detention they will often be vaccinated
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69312 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:01 am to
it would be insanely irresponsible for federal officials to allow people they haven't vetted to administer medicine they haven't vetted.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:02 am to
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Are you usually this immediately skeptical or just when you hear something that makes you uncomfortable?
I do not trust the media to give accurate information

local media is normally better; but I would bet anthing that there is more to this story

take it for what it is worth, but I was one of the 1st to comment here about the "smirking boy" story by saying that I thought there was likely more to the story

I got a lot of downvotes, but it turned out to that a racist Indian was harassing children

I need to see more than a story from NBC before I jump in and express outrage

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:04 am to
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what the frick different does it make whether you post "migrant" or "illegal alien"? Is that what you're asking?


In this particular instance I don't believe it's important

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:06 am to
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It sounds bad since you have no context. A group of 20 random doctors and nurses protesting showed up wanting to inject an unknown substance into detainees there. Any world you think they are going to give a green light on that?

The reason vaccination isn’t in place is the kids are there only 72 hours usually and if remaining in longer term detention they will often be vaccinated



That makes sense

Why not just have them vaccinated at their first stop though? Wouldn't that make more sense?

They have the potential to get other people including the people working in these camps sick.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17222 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:07 am to
Half of all Americans don’t get flu shots.... so.....
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:11 am to
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Half of all Americans don’t get flu shots.... so.....


Doesn't mean it's a good idea not to get one though

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142047 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:13 am to
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In this particular instance I don't believe it's important
It's always important, as you've shown you deliberately obfuscated by using the inadequately descriptive and misleading term "migrant" rather than the accurate "illegal alien", thus proving your bias.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:14 am to
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It's always important, as you've shown you deliberately obfuscated by using the inadequately descriptive and misleading term "migrant" rather than the accurate "illegal alien", thus proving your bias.



Not when you're talking about access to simple human rights

Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:15 am to
Can’t bring in all these kids with new autism...
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35540 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:18 am to
Flu shots are not like Tetanus or MMR.

As mentioned, most Americans don't get them.

It's been most effective in healthy adults.

I don't remember ever getting a flu shot as a child or young adult as they were seen as something marketed toward the elderly.

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142047 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:19 am to
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Not when you're talking about access to simple human rights
you mean "basic human rights", that's the phrase sent out with the talking points. "Basic human rights" are much more important than any plain old human rights, even simple human rights.

How could you disappoint us like this?

Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 12:19 am to
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simple human rights


What right exactly?
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