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re: Do you believe there is a secret cabal controlling the world/America?

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Posted by CMBears1259
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Do you believe there is a secret cabal controlling the world/America?


We're pretty much passed the point of secrecy now. It's basically wide open in front of us.
Posted by DarthTiger
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:32 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 9:48 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:33 pm to
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I disagree. I think Trump wasn't supposed to happen. They made damn sure it didn't happen again.


Yes! Donald Trump was the single savior of the American dream and individualism! He was crucified like our savior Jesus Christ.

Geez...some of you. Trump fooled such a large portion of the Republican base to worship him like he’s some god. Pitiful for a party that’s supposed to be about individual free thought rather than Democrat/communist sheep mentality.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:35 pm to
Well they're not really secret we just aren't allowed to talk about them or you get labeled as 'anti' or 'ist'.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:49 pm to
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Yes! Donald Trump was the single savior of the American dream and individualism! He was crucified like our savior Jesus Christ.

Geez...some of you. Trump fooled such a large portion of the Republican base to worship him like he’s some god. Pitiful for a party that’s supposed to be about individual free thought rather than Democrat/communist sheep mentality.



Q larp'd the frick out of all of them and they wont let it go
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:59 pm to
Anyone ever figure out who that Q fella was?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:19 pm to
It was Boared.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5901 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:29 pm to
Knew there was something about him I liked.
Thanks
Posted by Poohbear8487
Nashville
Member since May 2015
960 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:32 pm to
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Q larp'd the frick out of all of them and they wont let it go


Serious question for you...If Q is a "LARP" how is it that the 17+ intelligence agencies haven't been able to figure out who it is and arrest them or at least expose them to the public?

For something that has had the profound affect on the general population as Q, you think the government would want to get to the bottom of it, right?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:34 pm to
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Serious question for you...If Q is a "LARP" how is it that the 17+ intelligence agencies haven't been able to figure out who it is and arrest them or at least expose them to the public?

For something that has had the profound affect on the general population as Q, you think the government would want to get to the bottom of it, right?


Well on top of none of Q's predications ever happening, trump lost
Posted by Poohbear8487
Nashville
Member since May 2015
960 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:36 pm to
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Serious question for you...If Q is a "LARP" how is it that the 17+ intelligence agencies haven't been able to figure out who it is and arrest them or at least expose them to the public?

For something that has had the profound affect on the general population as Q, you think the government would want to get to the bottom of it, right?


Well on top of none of Q's predications ever happening, trump lost



So you don't think it is important enough for the IC to investigate then?
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Serious question for you...If Q is a "LARP" how is it that the 17+ intelligence agencies haven't been able to figure out who it is and arrest them or at least expose them to the public?

For something that has had the profound affect on the general population as Q, you think the government would want to get to the bottom of it, right?


Has it not occurred to you by now that Q WAS the deep state? It was part of a color revolution psyop against us. I'm MAGA to the bone but Q was never on our side folks. It was done to make sure that anyone calling out what was going on looked like a nutjob and could be easily disavowed.

They played you.
Posted by Poohbear8487
Nashville
Member since May 2015
960 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Has it not occurred to you by now that Q WAS the deep state? It was part of a color revolution psyop against us. I'm MAGA to the bone but Q was never on our side folks. It was done to make sure that anyone calling out what was going on looked like a nutjob and could be easily disavowed.

They played you.


1) So that means Trump was a deep state asset? If he wasn't, I imagine he would've come out against the Q deep state psyop then?
2) Completely agree with you that we have been in a Color Revolution. I beleive it didn't start until after the Covid lockdowns, though.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
5901 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:14 pm to
Opinions vary, but yours is a valid take. I just don't agree. And, because it is "opinion", or even "belief", it would be difficult to convince anyone otherwise, at this point.


What do you think of this "Q"?


Deep State Mapping Project
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2774 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:41 pm to
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America for sure is controlled. This country was great. Hasn't been great for decades.

For me,the US ceased being great that day in November, 1963 when I was shooting spitballs at the girl sitting in the desk in front of me in my 4th-grade classroom. That was when the principal came to the door and summoned the teacher out into the hall to inform her that President Kennedy had been shot. Frankly, it's been all downhill at varying speeds in different time periods since then.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Hoodie
Donaldsonville, LA
Member since Dec 2019
2986 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 3:43 pm to
Some say Tavistock created The Beatles and engineered music’s British Invasion to chip away at the morals of America’s youth.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:39 pm to
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Do you believe there is a secret cabal controlling the world/America?


They wrote a fricking article about this gloating after the “election”

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/well-funded-cabal-of-powerful-people-secured-the-electionshadow-campaign-changed-laws/94967663/









https://web.archive.org/web/20210205034403/https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/?amp=true

shadow campaign...
secret history...
well-funded cabal of powerful people...
change rules and laws...
steer media coverage...
control the flow of information...


Fortified it like they are doing in DC currently...

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/gq-have-you-heard-the-one-about-the-clinton-soros-plot-to-overthrow-trump/74112984/

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GQ: Have You Heard the One About the Clinton-Soros Plot to Overthrow Trump?Posted on 12/10/17 at 5:57 pm


gq

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Have You Heard the One About the Clinton-Soros Plot to Overthrow Trump?


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Across Washington, the sort of theories that once elicited laughs are now finding powerful proponents. Why are Erik Prince and other self-proclaimed “nationalists” in Trump’s orbit so concerned with liberal billionaire George Soros?



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On Monday, The Intercept reported that along with an associate, Prince—the Blackwater founder and all-around international man of intrigue—has been pitching Donald Trump’s White House and the president’s allies on the creation of a private network of spies that would operate outside the normal structure of the CIA. Prince has denied the Intercept story, though CNN, citing an unnamed official, confirmed its broad outlines on Tuesday.

But there’s more. The Intercept reported that Prince’s partner in the venture, a former CIA officer, has been making some mighty wild claims: That White House national-security adviser H.R. McMaster has ordered surveillance of Trump’s family and of Steve Bannon, and that McMaster has “used a burner phone to send information gathered through the surveillance to a facility in Cyprus owned by George Soros.”


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Prince himself recently endorsed a separate jaw-dropping theory about Soros: He suspects the magnate of trying to orchestrate an effort to sabotage the Trump administration through a so-called “Purple Revolution.” This campaign of resistance was purported to have begun in the moments right after the election, spurred along—supposedly—by Hillary Clinton and her husband, who each wore purple on stage as Clinton offered her concession speech in November 2016.

Prince’s suspicions about a “Purple Revolution” offer a window into his worldview and those of his fellow travelers, self-proclaimed upstart “nationalists” who are waging something of a cloak-and-dagger fight to wrest control of U.S. intelligence, national security, and foreign-policy interests from the establishment players they call “globalists.” In the view of these nationalists, they are up against a well-coordinated and ruthless campaign by many of the country’s most powerful people to undo, and if necessary overthrow, Trump’s government. Such threats to democracy, they posit, could justify extreme measures in response.







Concession 4 years ago:



Purple = royalty...'



The Intercept

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TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WEIGHING PLANS FOR PRIVATE SPIES TO COUNTER “DEEP STATE” ENEMIES

Matthew Cole, Jeremy Scahill
December 4 2017, 9:24 p.m.



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THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Donald Trump’s presidency.

The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration’s political agenda.

“Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”


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“[Maguire] said there were people inside the CIA who joined in the previous eight years [under Obama] and inside the government, and they were failing to give the president the intelligence he needed,” said a person who was pitched by Maguire and other Amyntor personnel. To support his claim, Maguire told at least two people that National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, in coordination with a top official at the National Security Agency, authorized surveillance of Steven Bannon and Trump family members, including Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump. Adding to these unsubstantiated claims, Maguire told the potential donors he also had evidence McMaster used a burner phone to send information gathered through the surveillance to a facility in Cyprus owned by George Soros.


Muh Q...
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:43 pm to
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Do you believe there is a secret cabal controlling the world/America?


Of course! Everyone knows it's the Stonecutters!

Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11089 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 4:53 pm to
Someone posted this article yd (about journalist working with the IC):

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/reporters-once-challenged-the-spy-a32

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Reporters Once Challenged the Spy State. Now, They're Agents of It News companies are pioneering a new brand of vigilante reporting, partnering with the spy agencies they once oversaw Matt Taibbi May 11 141



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The culmination of this period came when billionaire eBay founder Pierre Omidyar launched The Intercept in February 2014. The outlet was devoted to sifting through Snowden’s archive of leaked secrets, and its first story described how the NSA and CIA frequently made errors using geolocation to identify and assassinate drone targets. A few months later, former CIA and NSA director Michael Hayden admitted, “We kill people based on metadata.” Fast forward seven years. Julian Assange is behind bars, and may die there. Snowden is in exile in Russia. Brennan, Clapper, and Hayden have been rehabilitated and are all paid contributors to either MSNBC or CNN, part of a wave of intelligence officers who’ve flooded the airwaves and op-ed pages in recent years, including the FBI’s Asha Rangappa, Clint Watts, Josh Campbell, former counterintelligence chief Frank Figliuzzi and former deputy director Andrew McCabe, the CIA’s John Sipher, Phil Mudd, Ned Price, and many others.

Once again, Internet platforms, credit card companies like Visa and MasterCard, and payment processors like PayPal are working to help track down and/or block the activities of “extremists.” This time, they’re on the same side as the onetime press allies of Wikileaks and Snowden, who began a course reversal after the election of Donald Trump.

Those outlets first began steering attention away from intelligence abuses and toward bugbears like Trumpism, misinformation, and Russian meddling, then entered into partnerships with Langley-approved facsimiles of leak sites like Hamilton 68 , New Knowledge, and especially Bellingcat, a kind of reverse Wikileaks devoted to exposing the misdeeds of regimes in Russia, Syria, and Iran — less so the United States and its allies. The CIA’s former deputy chief of operations for Europe and Eurasia, Marc Polymeropolous, said of the group’s work, “I don’t want to be too dramatic, but we love this.”


https://www.bellingcat.com/news/rest-of-world/2021/05/10/where-in-the-world-is-q-clues-from-image-metadata/

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Where in the World is Q? Clues from Image Metadata May 10, 2021 8chan QAnon


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The hunt to identify the person or group behind the QAnon conspiracy theory continues. Known only as “Q,” this individual or collective is responsible for the many posts, or “drops,” that appeared on internet imageboards between October 2017 and December 2020. It has not been an easy search. But a fresh approach has yielded more clues. Image metadata comprises many different kinds of information, some of which can speak to the origin of the image itself and, by extension, who created it. Since many of Q’s posts come with an image attached, examining image metadata can provide clues as to where Q has been — and when. We examined metadata found on images associated with 27 Q drops. We infer from the metadata that the images are screenshots taken in two time zones: UTC+8 and the Pacific time zone. UTC+8 is a time zone including the Philippines, China, Mongolia, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei, and parts of Indonesia, Russia and Australia. Pacific time includes the West coasts of Canada and the USA, Nevada, part of Idaho, and part of the northwest coast of Mexico. The vast majority of these images, ranging in date from November 7, 2017 to September 23, 2020, appear to originate from the Pacific time zone, while a handful of remaining images from February 2018 and 2019 appear to originate from UTC+8.


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Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4061 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 9:17 am to
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1) So that means Trump was a deep state asset? If he wasn't, I imagine he would've come out against the Q deep state psyop then?


I don't think he knew what it was honestly. It was happening way below his paygrade/attention level. I suspect that when he heard about it it was basically a brief that described it as something his more vociferous followers were talking about that seemed to be all in support of him but I don't think he ever really knew what was being said by the Q folks.

IMHO Q was done by just a handful of psyops experts in the CIA. I doubt there's any paper trail on them anywhere. But you'll notice that the drops ended on December 8th. Their mission was accomplished. Nothing more to say.
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