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re: DO NOT ever threaten someone for risk of losing gun rights.

Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:36 pm to
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Was he convicted in a court of law?


His criminal charges are still pending.

He admitted to family violence in the civil court proceeding where the protective order was issued.

Rahimi signed an AGREED protective order in court. He was present for a hearing in which he was free to contest the allegations of family violence against him and present evidence to the judge. He chose not to do that and instead signed the order which stated "The Court finds that Zackey Rahimi, Respondent, has committed family violence."

He signed that order, thereby accepting that finding against him and the terms of the order, which stated the prohibition against possessing firearms.

A month after he signed that protective order, Rahimi was arrested on 3 charges: terroristic threat of family/household, assault causing bodily injury and recklessly discharging a firearm. He was released on bond and the bond conditions also prohibited him from possessing firearms.

The issue of firearm prohibition while on pretrial release is likely going to make its way to the Supreme Court sooner rather than later. LINK

So Rahimi willingly signed two documents within a 6 week period acknowledging he was not legally allowed to possess firearms - the protective order and the bond conditions. Then he repeatedly violated both and went on multiple shooting sprees. LINK

Tarrant County is not without major fault here. They repeatedly arrested and released this guy on bond when he was violating the previous bond conditions he was already on. Perhaps we should stop handing out cheap bonds for repeat offenders showing up in court with multiple charges already pending?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:38 pm to
Aw man you don’t have to worry about me. I fully understand what’s happening - you’re confused. Rather significantly might I add.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:54 pm to
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I fully understand what’s happening




OK.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:55 pm to
The real question is how can I help you do better. And no a brain transplant is out of the question.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:05 pm to
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how can I help you


You have nothing interesting to offer.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:10 pm to
You’re again out of your depth because you wouldn’t know anything properly “interesting”if it grabbed you by the vagina.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 7:12 pm to
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out of your depth


You aren't qualified to make that assertion.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35176 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:26 pm to
I’m overqualified in this particular situation.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71361 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:50 pm to
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Now it’s enforced anytime there is an order of protection, firearms are taken.

You have a right to a hearing in an order of protection and they also aren’t permanent. In TN, for instance, absent there being an aggravated assault assault conviction (or sexual assault), they, by law, are not in effect longer than 1 year. You can only have them extended longer than 1 year by the OP being violated while in place. That also requires a hearing. Temp OPs are only valid for 15 days following their issuance. Absent someone waiving their right to a hearing within 15 days, temp OPs expire as a matter of law
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 9:53 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18269 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:31 am to
So you believe this was the perfect case to take away your right to bear arms? I mean it appears to be a can't miss.

If the person his violent, why not remove that person from society rather than remove an inalienable right from millions of others?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18269 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:40 am to
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Are you familiar with the facts of this case? He brazenly pointed and then fired a weapon at strangers multiple times.

This guy should never touch another firearm in his life.


Extremely familiar. I am also familiar with the phrase "shall not be infringed." What does that phrase mean to you?

I believe a violent person should simply be removed. I think we know why they refuse to do it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:26 am to
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overqualified


BamaAtl claims to be an MD...
Posted by FCarole
Down da bayou
Member since Nov 2021
229 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 12:07 pm to
Agreed.

It really is not a simple issue to solve. On one hand, LEO's want to protect DV victims, but they also have a duty to protect the due process rights of the accused. I think the current processes have believed the accuser more than they do the accused out of an abundance of caution.
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