re: Did the Rebecca Lobach scrubbing accomplish anything?

This is a nothing burger in the grand scheme because:

1) Trump knew the woman's name within the hour and had his people dig up EVERYTHING on her within the next hour. They knew what type of toilet paper she buys.

2) If there was anything relevant on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and probably tiktok, it is in the hands of the administration right now. Those companies are extremely chummy with him at the moment so he would get what he wants, when he wants it. You can't tell me the administration was not in immediate contact with the tech companies demanding archives of all the service member's pages as of that morning.

3) Trump would release anything he thinks the public should know, the rest he will let the family have their privacy.

4) If you have a problem with what you are being told, Trump is the de facto gatekeeper on this, not some deep state/tech conspiracy. Trump absolutely would not sit back and let something nefarious coverup occur in regards to this woman's history. He would bring out receipts because he has them

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Since you are heavily invested in the blame game, did ATC confirm with the helo that the plane was approaching runway 33 and not runway 1?

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Moments later, ATC then warns the military pilot about an inbound aircraft preparing to land: "Traffic [American Airlines passenger plane] just south of the Woodrow Bridge, a CRJ, it's 1,200 feet setting up for Runway 33."

The Black Hawk pilot responds with: "PAT 25 has the traffic in sight, request visual separation."

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Whether that was pilot error, instructor error, I

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Instructor? She had 500 hours flying a Blackhawk. She wasn’t a student.

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I guess they were really trying to respect the family but that allowed for scrubbing.

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Hopefully the Trump admin made backups of all of her social media before the scrubbing.

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Instructor? She had 500 hours flying a Blackhawk. She wasn’t a student.

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According to the information given she was getting a check ride, and was under the instruction of the senior pilot. Who is probably the voice you hear.

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According to the information given she was getting a check ride, and was under the instruction of the senior pilot. Who is probably the voice you hear.

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Thought he was just doing the typical eval of her skills, not instructing.

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Nearly everything you've said in this thread is wrong

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Name one thing.

It’s easy to be married to an ideology that doesn’t require thought. Both sides are guilty of that. You definitely don’t seem to be willing to ask any questions.

Who is at fault? I’ve said it’s both, although some apparently think the ATC should be absolved of any guilt which is ludicrous.

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And reminder you’re arguing with someone who was ACTUALLY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER you fricking dolt.

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And I asked you if you can take the dick out of your mouth long enough to answer.

If you are the ATC, you have a conflict alert, which you hear on the tape. Do you do anything different?

If the answer is no, I’m amazed you let aircraft come into that close proximity and didn’t get anyone killed.

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quote:According to the information given she was getting a check ride, and was under the instruction of the senior pilot. Who is probably the voice you hear. Thought he was just doing the typical eval of her skills, not instructing.

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Honestly is there 10 cents worth of difference in this situation?

In an evaluation if the person being evaluated is doing something seriously wrong would they not instruct them on the proper action?

I’m very curious to hear if the black box has any communication between them in the copter to see what their reasoning was for the action which got everyone killed.

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Honestly is there 10 cents worth of difference in this situation?

In an evaluation if the person being evaluated is doing something seriously wrong would they not instruct them on the proper action?

I’m very curious to hear if the black box has any communication between them in the copter to see what their reasoning was for the action which got everyone killed.

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I’m also interested in the black box info. My point was that she had enough experience to avoid killing people. I suspect that the copilot and instructor were focused on other items in those last few minutes.