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Despite the Mueller report conclusions, Orange Man Bad

Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:17 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:17 am
Orange Man VERY Bad
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:18 am to
Question on the muh obstruction - how can you obstruct something that never existed (collusion)?

Poli Board lawyers, here's your chance...seriously
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:19 am to
Orange man very bad indeed!
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68070 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:27 am to
If you can find the video and endure it, Maddow tried to make the case last night. She was making all kinds of crazy comparisons to Watergate, then I think basically saying it's up to Congress now to pursue that angle. But, it was a pretty incoherent monologue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
475989 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:36 am to
i do love the "Meuller clearly was secretly telling Congress that it needs to investigate" interpretation

the fact that we're 3 days in and there isn't a single, consistent talking point makes me think they are legit spinning right now

btw i read some tweets from the formerly famous Louise Mensch yesterday. well worth your time

she's all about "Muh sealed indictments"

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Sir, question: can any authority other than a court of law “determine, find or establish” that a US person has committed a federal crime?

Related question: how many *still pending* sealed indictments *filed in 2018* are on the docket in DC?


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There is no cover-up going on. There is the correct legal process for the most significant set of prosecutions in the history of the Republic going on. By the book.

I’m going to write this up. My side won the day. The other side just don’t see it yet.


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In fact, not only is the letter wonderful, Barr and Rosenstein, and Mueller, are all just following the normal process of law you would expect for something like this. It’s just that neither Twitter nor the Press Corps realize it


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What looks "cute" and "games playing" could just be the regs.

Barr can only talk about OSC

I don't think he legally could confirm sealed indictments at any other federal court. Sealed means sealed!

Lawyers out there, thoughts? @DirkSchwenk


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See, I don't think Barr *could* say sot. It would be "revealing the existence of an ongoing investigation". Although it is indeed "too cute" at first sight, the only thing Barr is *allowed* to discuss, at all, is actions directly of OSC.

What happened to the referred cases, no.


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Barr had a right and duty to explain where the Special Counsel investigation is. He did so. Including sealed indictments. No more from OSC. He said OSC referred cases off (an action of OSC). All within the regs.

But if sealed indictments exist at other offices, could he say?


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Per my piece today, a close friend who is a journalist said it would be "too cute" for there to to be sealed indictments with other Federal offices on Russia and just not OSC. Agreed it looks games playing on first sight, but. What if those are just the rules? Barr is a stickler.
Posted by Canada_Baw
Member since Dec 2017
2489 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:40 am to
THAT is cognitive dissonance.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19975 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:43 am to
Congressional investigations are political and useless. Investigations are conducted by counsel and the DOJ.

Who just did that and didn’t find anything.

These people are dumb.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:44 am to
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Sir, question

The use of “sir” in social media communications, especially Twitter, is so cringe.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122461 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:45 am to
Olbermann’s use of sir is the best

SIR
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17265 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:50 am to
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Question on the muh obstruction - how can you obstruct something that never existed (collusion)?


You can’t. That’s why the lawyer reviewing the factual findings that were outside of the scope of the Special Counsel’s assignment made the legal conclusion that there was not sufficient evidence to conclude or charge Trump with obstructing an investigation into a crime he didn’t commit. He had no evidence of guilt or intent to hide any guilt.

Sincerely,
Wednesday, Esq.
Posted by Paradiddler
in a groove
Member since Jul 2016
1320 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:52 am to
What a mensch!
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
8730 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:59 am to
The left’s comparison of this to Watergate has always been fascinating to me. It shows a combination of ignorance, lack of self awareness, and the short sighted thinking that they have become famous for.

Watergate was about illegally spying on an opposing political party. Hmmm, what side’s actions does this directly compare to?

Do they really not see the irony and stupidity in their Watergate comparison?
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