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re: Derek Chauvin seriously injured in knife attack in prison

Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:35 pm to
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I would love to know why I should take your opinion on the subject
On what subject specifically?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:36 pm to
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sweetheart
I see you have replaced Ooopsie and Whoopsie with an equally as stupid saying.


You cant hide flamboyance.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:38 pm to
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If Floyd had not sucked down a rock of fentanyl, and was sober at the time rather than under psychotropic influence, it is extraordinarily likely he would have behaved differently during the encounter and not have required restraint at all.
Speaking of idiotic unscientific nonmedically based conjecture…
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:38 pm to
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So the past editor-in-chief of the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine isn’t considered an expert in the field.
What field? Forensics? No! The man is not an expert in forensics. Again, you'll not find a single reference to anything resembling traumatic markers in cases where asphyxiation is a suspected cause of death in either his books or his publications. Why? Because that is not his arena.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:40 pm to
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peaking of idiotic unscientific nonmedically based conjecture…

The psychotropic effects of fentanyl are nonmedically based conjecture? Do you have a clue as to WTF you're saying?
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:43 pm to
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Why? Because that is not his arena.


Really odd that the defense attorney would ask for his opinion on the matter then.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:45 pm to
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on the matter
What "matter" are you specifically referencing?
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:46 pm to
No using alternate realities where certain events somehow played out differently than they did to somehow justify your arguments is probably the pinnacle of idiotic unscientific nonmedically based conjecture.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13780 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:50 pm to
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Weren’t you the user that got bent out of shape because I told you “whoopsies”?


Nobody got "bent out of shape", rather, it was simply pointed out how stupid and juvenile it sounds.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:52 pm to
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No using alternate realities where certain events somehow played out differently than they did to somehow justify your arguments is probably the pinnacle of idiotic unscientific nonmedically based conjecture.
You UpVoted yourself for posting that gibberish?

Do you even know wtf the psychotropic effects of fentanyl are?
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 2:56 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:55 pm to
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Nobody got "bent out of shape", rather, it was simply pointed out how stupid and juvenile it sounds.
Worse yet, he was referring to something which had been pointed out to him earlier in the thread.

Then he posted “whoopsies” as if it were some sort of gotcha.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13780 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Then he posted “whoopsies” as if it were some sort of gotcha


Oopsie Whoopsies!!!
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 2:59 pm to
Did you know Bill Smock, a legal forensic medicine specialist, surgeon, and former emergency room doctor, also testified "you can be fatally strangled, die of asphyxia, and have absolutely no bruising." Bruising depends on where, how much and how long pressure has been applied, he said.

Cannot wait for you to claim he also isn’t qualified to give this opinion. I’m eager to hear it.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13780 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:01 pm to
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You cant hide flamboyance.

Back when I was in middle/high school, you sure could beat it out of a person, though.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:02 pm to
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Did you know Bill Smock, a legal forensic medicine specialist, surgeon, and former emergency room doctor, also testified "you can be fatally strangled, die of asphyxia, and have absolutely no bruising." Bruising depends on where, how much and how long pressure has been applied, he said.


He’s correct. So is your other expert incorrect? The one who said that there would be no bruising at the time of autopsy? (Hint: he is.)
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:03 pm to
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Bill Smock, a legal forensic medicine specialist, surgeon, and former emergency room doctor, also testified "you can be fatally strangled, die of asphyxia, and have absolutely no bruising."
Can you vocalize during that process as Floyd did? I may have missed Smock's testimony in that regard.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:13 pm to
Him: Google, what do I type now?

Google: Who knows? You sound super dumb and should probably stop posting about things you don’t understand in the slightest.

Him: I’ll put up a random link and a “whoopsie.” Thanks, Google.
This post was edited on 11/26/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:16 pm to
Tobin adressed that.
quote:

Floyd cried out, "I can't breathe" more than 20 times. Officers can be heard saying on body-camera video that if he could talk, he could breathe.
Tobin said that is a "dangerous" assumption because it doesn't mean someone still will be breathing in the next moment. Being able to speak meant Floyd's brain was functioning, Tobin said, and it meant he did respirate the moment before.
"It gives you a huge, false sense of security because very shortly after that, we're going to see that he has a major loss of oxygen in that he moves his leg," Tobin said. "So it tells you how dangerous is that concept of ... 'If you can speak, you can breathe.' Yes. That is true. On the surface, but highly misleading, very, very dangerous."
A normal trachea has a diameter between the size of a quarter and a dime, Tobin said. When the trachea is restricted to 15% of that, he said, "you are still able to speak."


Really looking forward to you claiming that a physician with 46 years of experience in the physiology of breathing ain’t qualified to make that assertion.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:17 pm to
That’s not even close to the best argument to make about compression asphyxia.

He sucks as an expert.
Posted by TigerIn2023
Member since Apr 2023
308 posts
Posted on 11/26/23 at 3:17 pm to
Wow! What an educated and well-cited argument! You’ve finally convinced me that all these medical experts are completely wrong and don’t know what they are talking about! Well said!
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