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Dems, MSM, & Zele say Putin can’t be negotiated with, so what’s next

Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:10 am
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
10547 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:10 am
So what’s the alternative? Do they want Trump to considering going all out into WWIII? What would the Dems and the MSM be saying if Trump were advocating for sending American troops and escalating the situation? Is the only response from the Dems just to keep spending money while this conflict drags on? What is their approach when it comes to avoiding negotiations?

Biden’s approach has been largely reactive: He has primarily sent money and aid, but the war continues to drag on. The U.S. response under Biden has often been about increasing financial and military support for Ukraine without taking proactive steps toward peace talks. Biden likely encouraged the invasion of Ukrain:

- Biden’s controversial comment that “It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion: This remark, made before the invasion, effectively gave Putin a green light, signaling that a limited invasion might not lead to major consequences. This blunder likely emboldened Russia to act more aggressively.
- Biden's earlier stance on NATO and Ukraine: President Biden stated that the decision on Ukraine’s NATO membership was solely up to the Ukrainian people. While this aligns with the principles of self-determination, it failed to address Russia’s concerns and the broader geopolitical implications, leading to a failure to prevent the conflict.
- Why has Russia's aggression escalated under Obama and Biden?: Both administrations struggled to manage Russia's ambitions.

During Trump's first term, the Dems and the MSM claimed that he would start WWIII. Meanwhile, he was working on peace deals then and now, while they attack him for it. We don't hate the MSM and Dems enough. Their only concerns are their political power, control, and stealing our money. The MSM and Dems are not focused on the well-being of the American people or the success of Americans.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68366 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:10 am to
I guess we stop funding, Europe picks up the slack, and the war continues.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20082 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:12 am to
That’s what they say but have you noticed that they never report or show Putin himself actually speaking on these subjects?

It’s almost as if they want to create the narrative and tell you what to think.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73610 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:18 am to
quote:

So what’s the alternative?


As I pointed out yesterday, there’s limited options left to Ukraine and the West at this point.

1. The West continues to pour billions of dollars of aid into the war. This will cause the war to drag on for a time, resulting in thousands more dead on both sides and more destruction of Ukrainian cities. But in the end the result will be Ukraine ultimately collapses and Russia wipes them off the map.

2. The West puts pressure on Ukraine to end the war now on the best terms it can get. Ukraine loses the territory Russia now holds, possibly some more, but still survives as an independent country.

3. The West enters the war on the side of Ukraine, triggering WWIII with all the horrors that ensues as a result.

That’s it. Those are the options.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:23 am to
The Left: Let’s go with option 3.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21804 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Dems, MSM, & Zele say Putin can’t be negotiated with,
This is a clumsy and juvenile rhetorical trick the left repeatedly uses to frame issues. "____________ is impossible, you can't do that, so you have to do the thing that we want you to do!!!"

You can fill in the blank with Negotiating with Putin, building a wall, deporting illegals, etc. All it takes to disprove these assertions in most cases is a leader who is willing to actually try these things to see that they are in fact possible and can be done.

These are not serious people with the interests of America or Americans in mind.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38357 posts
Posted on 3/1/25 at 8:26 am to
The only people that don't want peace are those that benefit from the war's continuation. We know who they are.
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