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re: Democrats Propose Bill to Neuter Militias
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:01 pm to Placekicker
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:01 pm to Placekicker
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The team, led by Mary McCord
There it is …..
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:10 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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It's a conditional, hypothetical statement, not an assumption. The key here is the use of the conjunction, "if".
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This is an assumption. Unless it is documented (and overt).
Again, unless it is documented, it is simply assumed.
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until they start training to overthrow us. Then, frick 'em.
Fair enough.
Posted on 1/13/24 at 4:11 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
No answer to this question:
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If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Posted on 1/13/24 at 5:09 pm to jimmy the leg
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you are of the opinion that Biden can arbitrarily kill US citizens without punishment simply by branding people as terrorists?
Ashli Babbit says hello.
And so do the Branch Dividians.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:09 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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and an armed mob.
Anyone should be against a "armed mob" but you want the authoritarians to decide that a group of people assembled to practice military formations old or new, uniforms old or new and firing or not firing of firearms are by definition a "mob".
The movie Minority Report comes to mind. Criminalization of intent of thought.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:17 pm to Placekicker
Everytime someone says "X is a threat to democracy", I'm going to assume they mean the bureaucracy instead.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:20 am to johnadams1776
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does that include antifia?
We know the answer to that.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:26 am to Placekicker
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Militias who like to spend their weekends training to overthrow the government
When we talk about all enemies, foreign and domestic, this writer mos def is one
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:27 am to WildTchoupitoulas
No answer to this question:
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If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
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If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:47 am to jimmy the leg
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If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Thanks to George Bush and the Republicans in 2001, we passed the Patriot Act. It's been a while since I read through it, but one of the things that stood out to me at the time was the law gave the president of the US the power to unilaterally declare who is a terrorist, and without recourse from the accused. At the time I was astonished by this, and wondered if the Republicans thought the Democrats would never be in charge again to use this against their political enemies. Here we are. I'm not surprised.
I'm also pretty sure the Patriot Act allows the president to do all manner of violent things to groups he declares to be terrorists.
But it looks like people ITT don't even believe there's such a thing as rebellion. It was after Shays' Rebellion that Jefferson famously quipped that the tree of liberty, blah, blah, blah, with which Washington vehemently disagreed. The rebellion, and the subsequent action of the Massachusetts militia, greatly influenced the Constitutional Convention where the weaknesses of the Confederation were discussed, and thus a stronger federal government would be formed to have the power to combat just such rebellious actions in conjunction with state militias.
Note that in Shays' Rebellion, Shays' men, while trained in use of arms and drilled for combat, were NOT considered a militia, but were simply rebels. It was the governor of Massachusetts who called forth the militia (under civil authority) to combat the rebels.
Joseph Biden calling these armed groups "militias" just shows what a retard he is.
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:44 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Thanks to George Bush and the Republicans in 2001, we passed the Patriot Act.
An absolute travesty for our civil liberties. FWIW, I did vote for the man, but was incredibly foolish to believe that he shared my values.
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It's been a while since I read through it, but one of the things that stood out to me at the time was the law gave the president of the US the power to unilaterally declare who is a terrorist, and without recourse from the accused.
I’m not doubting your memory, but I would like to see if that’s truly the case.
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Joseph Biden calling these armed groups "militias" just shows what a retard he is.
I would agree.
That being said, as noted awhile ago, until there is overt and documented evidence that these groups require further action by the government, then they should be left alone imho.
ETA - Thanks for the response.
I appreciate your view on the matter.
This post was edited on 1/14/24 at 5:47 pm
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