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Democratic turnout looks weak

Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:49 pm
Posted by PEPE
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:49 pm
In 2016 with 2 candidates, the New Hampshire Democratic primary had 253,062 total votes cast.

In 2020 with at least 5-8 major candidates left, right now it's looking like ~235K votes will be cast.

We'll see how the ultimate total shakes out but a decline of any sort speaks to lower enthusiasm.

Edit: With ~80% in the total vote count is now 248,114, looks like it will finish a tad above the 2016 levels.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:50 pm to
That’s huge. Great post MSNBC hasn’t reported this yet.

Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:50 pm to
how are you getting to that math? I have them around 2008 numbers right now with is 260k
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:50 pm to
Can you blame them for staying home?
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:50 pm to
This the data I’m most interested in
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:51 pm to
Can you blame them? They’ve had their hopes dashed on a quarterly basis by their own party. TigerDoc’s wife’s boyfriend has been tucking him into bed for 6 months straight
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:51 pm to
MSNBC collared a voter to see who they voted for;

"Donald John Trump"

Reporter was disappointed.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

how are you getting to that math?


I basically took the vote total at 20% and multiplied by 5. It's hard to calculate exactly because with "20%" in that may or may not mean ~20% of the votes. So we will really have to wait awhile to see exactly.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:56 pm to
I could be way off

NY Times just tweeted (Nate Cohn) an estimate per candidate and the total is around 210-220k which isn'tfar off from your number

ETA

I completely misread the tweet. Turnout is expected to be around 260k could even surpass 2008.

This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:59 pm to
Good god that’s even worse than the OPs numbers
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:59 pm to
That's a huge decline actually, like 15%

typically the more competitive the race, the more money being spent, the more candidates = more turnout.

Lower turnout in Iowa and New Hampshire with this field is a strong omen.
Posted by StrangeBrew
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

235K


39% in and roughly 50k votes totaled
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:01 pm to
Forecast is for 270,000 votes, lower than that will be a disappointment
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:04 pm to
265k votes in 2008 if this surpasses that its a huge concern for the trump campaign enthusiasm is still very real.

Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:06 pm to
65,863 votes with 29% in, would extrapolate to 227,113 votes with 100% in, IF the % in currently corresponds directly to the ultimate vote share.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:08 pm to
Im watching CNN and they have 42% in with 112,000 votes casted
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:10 pm to
Oh I'm looking old data then, Foxnews is still reporting just 31%.

Looks like the % in is indeed unreliably early. I believe it corresponds to precincts which vary wildly in vote total. Until the high population precincts come in we won't know much.
Posted by fjlee90
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:11 pm to
It’s an open primary. In an historically liberal state. If they surpass 2008 numbers it’s not good but it’s not concerning at all.
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:12 pm to
Don’t forget it’s precincts reported in not votes and there are several more rural areas that where open later than the more densely populated area.

My guess is above 2008 numbers but solidly below 2016
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

My guess is above 2008 numbers but solidly below 2016


Based on what I"m seeing 2008 had more than 2016.

2008 - 287,527
2016 - 253,062
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