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re: Dem pollster "we are in trouble"

Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:04 pm to
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:04 pm to
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You can not like her, but she's certainly not economically illiterate


She is an academic, her work is that of a person who lacks even a basic understanding of what is required to produce a successful business, not unlike the current president.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:11 pm to
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and they will lose in 2016 because they will kill each other off in the primaries.

I've gotta tell you that I think that many Dems in the know are hoping like f'n crazy that someone takes Hillary out.

She is a godawful candidate. I'm not talking about policy here. It's just a reality that in politics, likability is an important thing and I'll be damned if she's not the polar opposite of her hubby in that area.

I suspect that for his entire adult life, Bill's been the type dude that shows up to a gathering and inside of 30 minutes, everyone knows him and likes him. Hillary seems the type that inside of 30 minutes, people are like, "who's this bitch"?

There are pols on both sides with the likability problem and it's a big deal in national politics.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:12 pm to
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Did you know she was Secretary of State?
Handed to her

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A senator - NY
Cmon man. Bill might as well have been running in that election. She cherry picked the location and ran on hubby's coat tails.
Posted by ScooterCadwallader
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:31 pm to
So, the Dem candidate is going to blame Obama?
That's racist , and it would drive the black turnout away.
The alternative, the economy is great!
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:33 pm to
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She is a godawful candidate. I'm not talking about policy here. It's just a reality that in politics, likability is an important thing and I'll be damned if she's not the polar opposite of her hubby in that area.


She also doesn't attract the younger age groups like Obama, he had the "hip and cool" factor, Hillary is just an old angry white woman to those under 30.
Posted by ScooterCadwallader
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:34 pm to
Bush senior won because the economy was alright, and Reagan was still popular.
He lost when the economy tanked.

Barry is not popular, and the economy is still in the drink.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 7:37 pm to
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Bush senior won because the economy was alright, and Reagan was still popular.
He lost when the economy tanked.


He lost because many typical R voters like my parents voted for Perot.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:00 pm to
You can not like her, but she's certainly not economically illiterate .

After that, I know she is....
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65155 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:05 pm to
Plus, Hilliary is totally f'ing clueless in foreign policy. One little blunder in Benghazi, and she fakes a stroke, so she can't immediately testify. You risking the American lives, and possibly your own with that kind of spine..he'll no. I know our enemies want her to run, they can't wait...
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:06 pm to
She's a bankruptcy specialist which isn't the same thing as macroeconomics.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:19 pm to
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She's a bankruptcy specialist which isn't the same thing as macroeconomics.

Of course it's not. But the question isn't whether or not she's an expert in macroeconomics. The question is whether or not she's "economically illiterate"?


Posted by a want
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:27 pm to
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She is an academic, her work is that of a person who lacks even a basic understanding of what is required to produce a successful business, not unlike the current president.

Is she running for "successful private business runner"?

Presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Kennedy, Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Obama haven't run successful businesses either.

I don't care for Warren but the hard on you guys have for "run a successful business" is interesting.
Posted by Antonio Moss
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49087 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:29 pm to
I would argue that academics have never fared well as President.
Posted by ScooterCadwallader
Member since Sep 2013
70 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:30 pm to
Those who can't....teach
Posted by SettleDown
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:34 pm to
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Is she running for "successful private business runner"?

Presidents Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Kennedy, Johnson, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and Obama haven't run successful businesses either.

I don't care for Warren but the hard on you guys have for "run a successful business" is interesting.


Meh. I'm not bit on that element. But damn, for Hillary, I'd say her greatest accomplishment was being married to Bill.

OK. Yes. That's slightly overstated but she really didn't do THAT much on her own.

Alas, even prior to Bill being elected, her resume had 10 times the accomplishment that the current moron in chief had so, I guess we've already set that precedent.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:11 pm to
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Did you know she was Secretary of State? A senator - NY? 



So, the only accomplishments you can think of for this champion of feminist and feminism is that she was handed a bunch of jobs because of who her husband is?
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:36 pm to
What trouble? Obama will use his executive order to put all those dems back in office.
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