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re: Declassified Flynn unmasking list...Biden is on the list

Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by Poohter
SW, Mo.
Member since Sep 2009
1737 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

Unmasking is ONLY allowed for legitimate national security reasons, and then ONLY by a small subset of authorized persons. It cannot be used when “fishing for dirt”, when disingenuously trying to establish a pretext for another illegal act (FISA abuse), or to target a political opponent.


The even bigger picture, you are seeing the beginnings of an attempted COUP. This is very illegal. Conspiracy, collusion, Treason, sedition, GITMO, firing squad.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 4:50 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

And not one mention of unmasking at all on CNN’s entire site....



They don’t know how to spin it

And if they ever have to acknowledge it as true, lord, that would be admitting that they have been wrong about everything, for years.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:48 pm to
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The unmasking part isn’t the crime it’s the leaking. Was Biden saying he didn’t leak it or unmask?


He’s saying he had absolutely nothing to do with it
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

They don’t know how to spin it

And if they ever have to acknowledge it as true, lord, that would be admitting that they have been wrong about everything, for years.


Exactly.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

He’s saying he had absolutely nothing to do with it


Interesting, I saw his spok just went went after Catherine Herridge in the most disgusting way you can imagine.
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:01 pm to
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The illegal part is when it is proven that the unmasking was part of a surveillance campaign against a US citizen

You have to get a judge to sign off on that. This was their way to avoid that legal requirement.


It’s nearly impossible to prove conspiracy in these type of situations. You start with what’s actually illegal , “the leak” to the Washington Post. That’s where this has legs.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2564 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:05 pm to
Well the DNC talking points have obviously not been distributed yet....
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:09 pm to
quote:


They don’t know how to spin it

And if they ever have to acknowledge it as true, lord, that would be admitting that they have been wrong about everything, for years.


Now go back and look at how they covered Valerie Plame
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:10 pm to
quote:


It’s nearly impossible to prove conspiracy in these type of situations


It’s a political noose to anyone that’s honest (exclude liberals here)
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Someone inappropriately unmasked General Flynn name which kicked off all this stuff


Not only that but they intentionally triggered the call from Kislyak knowing Flynn was going to be on the other end and out of the country.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

So my question below that hasn't been asnwered... If they can't be unmasked legally, then how is it even possible?


Have you found a way for murder to be legal yet?
Posted by Saucypants
Tulsa, OK
Member since Jul 2019
616 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:17 pm to
Goddamn our government is corrupt as shite ??
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:20 pm to
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It’s a political noose to anyone that’s honest


Honestly it’s a nice talking point to beat back on Russia probe and actually go on the offensive. I think Trump and the Republicans should use this as an opportunity to reform FISA and some of these intelligence agencies. But they need to catch the leaker above all things.

Legally this isn’t an issue except for the leaker but politically it has a chance to damage Obama and Biden. Dems used Russia for 2 years to win back the House, now the tables have turned. Still, this won’t even be in the top 5 of issues come November.

1. Covid Situation
2. Economy/ Jobs
3. China
4. Healthcare
5. Judges
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:21 pm to
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But until his named was unmasked how would they know a random redacted name in an intelligence report was him.


Because they triggered the phone call knowing it was going to him
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:32 pm to
Remember this important detail, Flynn was freelancing when he called up Sergey Kislyak and the Obama administration believed he was undermining “official” US policy..

The Mueller Report concludes that they found had no evidence Trump asked Flynn to speak to Kislyak about sanctions. Given that finding, the unmasking doesn’t seem so unreasonable.

I’ve always believed Flynn got his marching orders from Trump when speaking with Kislyak. Flynn never outed the President the during investigation.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Why so many unmasking request prior to the call with Kislyak?



Probably fishing for the right bombshell to leak to the media. Italy, Spain, Germany not too interesting. Wait a minute, Russian Ambassador, that fits our collusion narrative!
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2564 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:35 pm to
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Still, this won’t even be in the top 5 of issues come November.


I think it’s wishful thinking on your part if you believe Trump will let this whole thing slide or fall from the public consciousness. And as things progress into charges and court cases it’ll be impossible for Obamagate to not be a major issue. How could historical levels of corruption by one party not be an issue??
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Obama administration believed he was undermining “official” US policy..


This is stupid.

They read the transcript and knew this wasn’t the case.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

The Mueller Report concludes that they found had no evidence Trump asked Flynn to speak to Kislyak about sanctions. Given that finding, the unmasking doesn’t seem so unreasonable


Given there was nothing there it was justified they unmasked a citizen?
Posted by TOKEN
Member since Feb 2014
11990 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:38 pm to
quote:

I think it’s wishful thinking on your part if you believe Trump will let this whole thing slide or fall from the public consciousness. And as things progress into charges and court cases it’ll be impossible for Obamagate to not be a major issue. How could historical levels of corruption by one party not be an issue??


Because the media believes this to be a nothing burger?

It’s not viewed the same way as through the eyes of conservatives. I’m not saying it’s right it’s just fact. Go turn on the news and tell me how many people are talking about this story besides Fox and maybe CBS?
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