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re: Daily Wire is about free speech unless it's against Jews. Candace Owens and DW parted ways

Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:11 am to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:11 am to
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They aren’t. Until they are. It’s all about convenience and flexibility for that particular group.


Exactly. They are the only group on earth that can claim racism and get mad about anti-Semitism.

As a Cajun descendent who is also Christian, I am going to start claiming racism since meansonny says ethnic groups are races. I am also going to claim Christphobia against any hate speech towards Christians.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:12 am to
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So you are inferring that racial cleansing has multiple meanings also (i.e. ethnic?)


No. You are losing the argument so you are making shite up to steer the conversation.

What part of being an ethnic group do you think qualifies it as a separate race?

Again, do Cajuns qualify to be a race?
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:14 am to
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Exactly. They are the only group on earth that can claim racism and get mad about anti-Semitism.


I'm catholic. European heritage.
I get mad about anti-semitism.
I get mad about racism.

I'm not sure what your point is above.

Edit to add: you come off as jealous.
I have no understanding as to why.
But you are mad envious for some reason.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 9:16 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:19 am to
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I'm catholic. European heritage.
I get mad about anti-semitism.
I get mad about racism.


OK. Good for you. Not sure how that makes Jews a race which is what you are claiming.

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you come off as jealous.


No. Just setting the record straight. They aren't a race. Are some of them parts of an ethnic group...yes but that's true of all religions.

Are they a religion...yes.

Are they a separate race and classified as such...no.
Posted by TN Tygah
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:22 am to
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My mother's entire family is Jewish, and they have nothing but spite towards people like Greenblatt and Shapiro.


This. I lived in LA for years. Probably 20 Jewish people in my work circle. The only one I know who speaks positively about Ben Shapiro is an Israeli immigrant. He is in no way a popular guy with Jews.

Jews are something like 65% democrat as it is.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:27 am to
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OK. Good for you. Not sure how that makes Jews a race which is what you are claiming.


You are mad jealous.
And mad angry.

Reread my posts and quit with the strawman.
Show some IQ and quit being a Cajun bastard.
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No. Just setting the record straight. They aren't a race. Are some of them parts of an ethnic group...yes but that's true of all religions.

Are they a religion...yes.

Are they a separate race and classified as such...no.


For the reading impaired, mad jealous, and internet triggered, this was my first response on page 3 which you even quoted:

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quote:
Jews are a race?



It is a racial ethnicity.
And in a different context, it is a people of a religion.



This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 9:28 am
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:28 am to
She started publicly trashing Ben. Never a good idea to publicly trash your boss.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:29 am to
Even if they aren’t scientifically a “race” they identify as one and are seen globally as one. Including secular Jews. I don’t think anyone would mind if Cajuns started identifying as a race. But the point is they haven’t and never will. Jewish people always have. They have always seen themselves as a separate people. You can’t put it in a box because it doesn’t fit in a box. They are a unique people with a unique history. There were people outside of the family of Abraham that departed from Egypt during the Exodus (Including Egyptians themselves). It’s complicated but it doesn’t change the worldwide perception. Adolf Hitler obviously saw them as a race. He didn’t ask if they were secular or not when he walked them into the chambers.

You are playing semantics with it.

Calling Candace anti-Semitic for the idiotic things she has said is not the same thing as the left calling someone anti-Semitic for criticizing George Soros.

Also, the Daily Wire is not an open platform. They are a publication with a brand. Candace Owen’s clearly doesn’t align and they don’t owe her a platform. This is not the “free speech” issue it’s being made out to be. If Michael Knowles started openly supporting abortion on his show, he would be escorted out as well.

Race hatred is not okay in any format. Candace flirted with it and found out.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:31 am to
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She started publicly trashing Ben. Never a good idea to publicly trash your boss.


Ben doesn’t make these kinds of decisions at the Daily Wire. He owns a percentage of the business, but he couldn’t outright fire Candace or she would have been gone long ago.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:31 am to
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Jews are something like 65% democrat as it is.


Seems low
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:32 am to
Derp
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:33 am to
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You are playing semantics with it.


No I am not. Fact. Jews are not a race.

You guys are the ones playing semantics by saying they are "seen gloabaly as one" of they are an "ethnic group"

None of that changes the facts.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:39 am to
No I am not. Fact. Jews are not a race.

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You guys are the ones playing semantics by saying they are "seen gloabaly as one" of they are an "ethnic group"

None of that changes the facts.


No you are taking an extremely complex situation and trying to argue it at a middle school level. It isn’t that black and white.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:48 am to
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o you are taking an extremely complex situation and trying to argue it at a middle school level


It is middle school level.

We can't go and start counting every ethnic group as a race. That would be silly. Especially when the majority of that group is white, or black, Asian, etc
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:05 am to
I listen to Walsh and/or Knowles before bed. Kids watch Bent Key. I’m not overly triggered by any of this. Either way. I like CO alright. Who cares?

ETA: I do like Klavan and have listened to him a few times esp when his son is on.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 10:09 am
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:18 am to
Candace Owens was announced on the daily wire platform March 9th 2021.

I think she wanted out.
She was attempting to get fired.
And at the end of the day, she was stuck until her contract ran out.
The daily wire would not fire her.
And she would not quit.

"She is free at last".
Posted by TN Tygah
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:21 am to
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Jews are a race?

They are classified officially as a race? I guess I missed Jews as a race on the US census.



Jew is more a cultural term than anything else nowadays. Most Jews I know aren’t practicing. The show Curb Your Enthusiasm pretty much nails modern day Jews. None of those people actually buy into it, they’re just culturally connected. They have their own inside jokes / customs / mannerisms / traditions / food. Most of them are descended from the ancient Israelites.

Anyone who looks at being Jewish as having much if anything to do with religion nowadays just doesn’t know any Jewish people.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:26 am to
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It is middle school level.

We can't go and start counting every ethnic group as a race. That would be silly. Especially when the majority of that group is white, or black, Asian, etc


Except the people that historically wanted to exterminate them don’t view it that simply. Religious or ethnic, if you are a Jew, they hated you. Same holds true today.
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