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re: Crime has been falling in DC.

Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1368 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 2:47 pm to
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Cities not reporting the data


Thanks for admitting the data is incomplete, this is a small step, but you are making progress. Maybe in 200 more posts you will get a little closer to the truth.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1368 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 3:00 pm to
ANY - evidence that homicides are being undercounted.

From a letter sent to Director Wray by the Congressional Oversight Committee:

“In 2023 the FBI released its annual Crime in the Nation report showing an estimated 1.7% decrease in violent crime in 2022,….but there was no decrease. The FBI failed to include in its initial count an additional 1,699 murders

Later in the same letter:

“The FBI failed to receive data from 37% of law enforcement agencies across the country “

If you choose to dismiss this then feel free to continue in your ignorance.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37106 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:43 pm to
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Homicides are hard to cover up if you want to juke the stats.
You live in Jackson, Ms. You know better than that. Chokwe either covered up or refused to give a proper count.
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1376 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:48 pm to
Ok now compare this fake homicide data for DC to homicides in Denver which has about the same population. You will clearly see the homicide rate in DC is off the charts whether it’s down or not!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38463 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

“In 2023 the FBI released its annual Crime in the Nation report showing an estimated 1.7% decrease in violent crime in 2022,….but there was no decrease. The FBI failed to include in its initial count an additional 1,699 murders”

Later in the same letter:

“The FBI failed to receive data from 37% of law enforcement agencies across the country “
This has already been explained - the city data is available. You don't have to rely on the FBI (at least not from when they botched the transition to their new reporting system in 2021-22).

In any event, this doesn't even begin to put a dent in the precipitous declines in murder (and all violent crime) over the past 30 years. That is a real drop and no amount of wishing it away (which is bizarre) will make it be any different.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:24 pm to
I'll ask you again:

Which big cities that didn't report to the FBI would you like to look at?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37106 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

We're a violent country compared to basically the entire developed world.
Left wing catch and release will do that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:28 pm to
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Left wing catch and release will do that.


I mean...




We're also jailing an exponentially higher population compared to basically the rest of the developed world, too.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:29 pm to
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We're also jailing an exponentially higher population compared to basically the rest of the developed world, too.
good
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8699 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:32 pm to
If you believe crime is falling in D.C. then your stupidty is only matched by your gullibility.
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3398 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

In any event, this doesn't even begin to put a dent in the precipitous declines in murder (and all violent crime) over the past 30 years. That is a real drop and no amount of wishing it away (which is bizarre) will make it be any different.


So - you and your ilk are stuck on this. Why, you don't wish crime to drop even more? Why are you offended by this action to help clean up DC? You all are poosyfooting around hoisting a suspect at most statistic, but even if true, why are you, your ilk, and the MSM head strong about this? You are not telling what is offending you - given that lower crime would benefit all. Why are you all offended?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39540 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Cities not reporting data to the FBI doesn't mean that the data is bad


It means it’s incomplete, and thus invalid.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39540 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:12 pm to
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Again, are you assuming they don't keep their own data? And we can't go look it up?


I would assume the data a liberal city keeps is incomplete, and thus also invalid
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:38 pm to
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It means it’s incomplete, and thus invalid.


Invalid? No. Imperfect? Yes.

That's why they use modeling to fill the gaps. That's not invalid
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466161 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

I would assume the data a liberal city keeps is incomplete, and thus also invalid


You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39540 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:07 am to
quote:

You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.


The liberal trait of lying is just an opinion, got it.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1368 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 7:59 am to
Keep moving the goalposts to try to further your wishcasting. You asked for ANY evidence and I gave it to you. Now you say we don’t have to rely on the FBI because you did not like my response.

You keep saying precipitous decline but have no credible evidence to support that, and when I question it you call my view bizarre. It is of note that you are the one that continues to get emotionally defensive when challenged, really does not help your argument.
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1368 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:17 am to
quote:

they use modeling to fill the gaps


Recall the manufactured COVID crisis? One of the most reported-on examples of modeling came from the UK that predicted millions of deaths in the UK alone in the first year.

Based on this experience it is reasonable not to trust modeling to fill in gaps in data.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92551 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:23 am to
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The FBI failed to receive data from 37% of law enforcement agencies across the country


FBI man: then those crimes never happened!
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