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re: Crime has been falling in DC.

Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:51 pm to
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talk about a straw man.

That's analysis, not a straw man

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the investigation is still underway

Exactly

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but the fact he has been suspended since may for falsifying crime statistic reports sure sounds like evidence of falsifying crime statistics.

And "evidence" (as weak as it may be at this point) isn't the standard being discussed. THAT is a straw man.
Posted by CR4090
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:53 pm to
They are simply NOT REPORTING CRIMES...
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:54 pm to
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DC police commander suspended, accused of deliberately manipulating data to falsely show a 26% drop in violent crime
LINK


Interesting.

We get to see what happens when emotional, pre-conceived views conflict with data. Let's see which people pick
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:54 pm to
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You can't really hide murders.


Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:55 pm to
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And trust me, you don't want "100% proven" to be the standard for YOUR argument.


If it’s not 100%, it already been discredited. Liberals lie. It’s dumb to argue in their defense as you do so often.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:56 pm to
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If it’s not 100%, it already been discredited.

So neither side can argue, as both sides have already been discredited, in your standard. So let's delete the thread?

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It’s dumb to argue in their defense as you do so often.

I'm making no partisan argument and my argument is apolitical and completely non-partisan.

Crime is going down, generally, across the board.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 5:57 pm
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 5:58 pm to
DC os crime infested, but I question what the National Gurd can do. They are not trained in urban police work. Stationed on corners carrying weapons may make them targets. I hope not.
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:00 pm to
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That's analysis, not a straw man


for you to claim there is no proof of the DC police falsifying crime data because you don't know the exact %'s is most definitely a straw man.
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 6:01 pm
Posted by thejudge
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:01 pm to
Posted by kilo
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:03 pm to
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DC Police Chief Suspended Over Falsification of Crime Statistics


The total number of L's SFP has taken in the last 12 months is staggering.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:04 pm to
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for you to claim there is no proof of the DC police falsifying crime data

THAT is a strawman
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:04 pm to
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The total number of L's SFP has taken in the last 12 months is staggering.


What % of the total crime does his district have?

What % of that % is alleged to be fake?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:08 pm to
Bad news, this exact kind math explains why election fraud is such a BS boogieman and they don't understand that either....
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:10 pm to
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What % of that % is alleged to be fake?


what level of intentional falsifying crime data for the FBI is acceptable?

Posted by Mushroom1968
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:12 pm to
The corollary is all the voter fraud that was meaningless in California in 2020 and all the juked stats in conservative areas (because crime is going down there, too)
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:12 pm to
now you are riding with prplehaze, big scum, and oklafag.

You will never get rid of the stink you got on you from riding in this clown car.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:14 pm to
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what level of intentional falsifying crime data for the FBI is acceptable?

The typical margin of error in large data analyses relying on humans
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:16 pm to
I don't think peer pressure has influenced my thinking since middle school

That's why I have real friends like Steve Meve
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