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re: Court documents allege Epstein had videos of Clinton, Prince Andrew, among others
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:17 pm to Barstools
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:17 pm to Barstools
Well for starters I sure as hell wouldn’t pay any mind to that poster. Looks like he googled “bad stuff to say about Trump regarding Epstein.” They actually have that stuff and don’t think people amongst us don’t do it. Which makes is very sad on a number of levels.
As to the truthfulness of the supposed claim, I mean, how many lies, extreme and absurd lies at that, must they be busted in before the instinctive, reflexive response is to immediately throw it in the garbage where it belongs?
As to the truthfulness of the supposed claim, I mean, how many lies, extreme and absurd lies at that, must they be busted in before the instinctive, reflexive response is to immediately throw it in the garbage where it belongs?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:29 pm to Fun Bunch
https://thepostmillennial.com/ny-post-daily-mail-run-clickbait-headlines-about-trump-epstein-tapes-accuser-recanted-years-ago
NY Post, Daily Mail run clickbait headlines about Trump Epstein tapes, accuser recanted years ago. The accuser quoted in that Exhibit recanted her comments years later in a New Yorker interview.
NY Post, Daily Mail run clickbait headlines about Trump Epstein tapes, accuser recanted years ago. The accuser quoted in that Exhibit recanted her comments years later in a New Yorker interview.
quote:
A new set of documents from the case between Virginia Giuffre and Ghislaine Maxwell concerning Jeffrey Epstein were released on Monday.
The New York Post, The Daily Mail, and other outlets took those documents and ran false headlines that claimed there was footage of Donald Trump having sex with Epstein's victims. The accuser quoted in that Exhibit recanted her comments years later in a New Yorker interview.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:38 pm to Kjnstkmn
Media Outlets Bury Revelation That Epstein Accuser Retracted Trump Allegations
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/01/08/media-outlets-bury-revelation-that-epstein-accuser-retracted-trump-allegations/
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/01/08/media-outlets-bury-revelation-that-epstein-accuser-retracted-trump-allegations/
quote:
Media outlets buried the revelation that an accuser of the late disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein had retracted former President Donald Trump from her allegations. On Monday, multiple media outlets ran reports of Trump having been named in the latest Epstein documents, but failed to note in the lede of their articles that the accuser had actually retracted those allegations in 2019.
Court documents made available on Monday included Epstein victim Sarah Ransome’s 2016 emails to the New York Post suggesting that she had Epstein-related sex tapes involving half a dozen prominent people, including Trump, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, and Sir Richard Branson.
Ransome, however, could not provide the tapes when asked, and no such footage has ever been uncovered.
Then in 2019, Ransome retracted her claims, according to the New Yorker, which reported that Ransome admitted to having “invented the tapes to draw attention to Epstein’s behavior, and to make him believe that she had ‘evidence that would come out if he harmed me.'”
Posted on 1/8/24 at 11:50 pm to Kjnstkmn
Uh, this is a problem. I had no idea about this connection, Epstein met Guiffre and recruiter her FROM MAL, she is the key witness who settled with Prince Andrew:
AP Article with more Court Documents released
AP Article with more Court Documents released
quote:
Clinton has previously said through a spokesperson that while he traveled on Epstein’s jet several times, he never visited his homes, had no knowledge of his crimes, and hadn’t spoken to him since his conviction. Trump has also said that he once thought Epstein was a “terrific guy,” but that they later had a falling out.
In her deposition, Giuffre said the summer she turned 17, she was lured away from a job as a spa attendant at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club to become a “masseuse” for Epstein — a job that involved performing sexual acts.
She settled a lawsuit against Prince Andrew in 2022 in which she claimed he had sexually abused her during a trip to London. That same year, Giuffre withdrew an accusation she had made against Epstein’s former attorney, law professor Alan Dershowitz, saying she “ may have made a mistake ” in identifying him as an abuser.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:44 am to aggressor
Who is this a problem for? 
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:52 am to Houag80
Trump becoming aware of Epstein being sleazy at MAR is why he kicked him out.
This is known.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/labor-secretary-acosta-out/index.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html
This is known.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/labor-secretary-acosta-out/index.html
quote:
July 12, 2019
Trump confirms he threw Jeffrey Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago
President Trump confirmed reports that he threw Jeffrey Epstein out of his Mar-a-Lago club years ago, adding, "I was not a fan of Jeffrey Epstein."
"Jeffrey Epstein was not somebody that I respected. I threw him out. In fact I think the great James Patterson, who’s a member of Mar-a-Lago, made a statement yesterday, that many years ago I threw him out. I’m not a fan of Jeffrey Epstein."
Trump continued: “I didn’t want anything to do with him. That was many, many years ago. It shows you one thing -- that I have good taste."
Trump added that reporters should look into the people who went to Epstein’s private island.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/04/trump-banned-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-for-hitting-on-girl.html
quote:
Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after sex criminal hit on member’s daughter
President Donald Trump banned wealthy investor Jeffrey Epstein from his exclusive Mar-a-Lago club for hitting on the teenage daughter of another member, according to a new book entitled “The Grifter’s Club.”
The late Epstein’s banishment by Trump from the Palm Beach, Florida, club appears to have occurred months before Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to state criminal charges in Florida, which included paying for sexual services from a 14-year-old girl.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:05 pm to Kjnstkmn
He did and that was great. The problem is the girl that settled with Prince Andrew and was working for Epstein as a "masseuse" that provided sexual favors was recruited years before that from MAL at the age of 17. Trump knew her before and after. There is no evidence Trump had any relations with her sexually but he knew where Epstein hired her from and almost certainly knew what she was doing for him. That's from her sworn testimony
You are talking about what Trump did years later after he had already fallen out with Epstein over a Real Estate deal in 2004. That doesn't make everything he did prior to 2004 go away.
There is no evidence of Trump doing anything illegal but there is a LOT of evidence Trump was spending a lot of time with Epstein and there are multiple women saying he was having sex while visiting Epstein's house. We don't have names or ages though and who knows if it is true but you have 2 Epstein accusers now saying so and that doesn't include the Prince Andrew girl who knew about Trump and Epstein spending time together but didn't know about anything sexual Trump was engaged in.
At least one of the women retracted her story but said it was because she had been threatened by Maxwell and feared for her safety and that of her family which is certainly believable.
Those are just the facts as they have been released in the last few days. It's going to be lots of fun when those women get put on 60 Minutes after Trump is the nominee.
I do not think Trump is a pedo. I don't think he did anything illegal. I do think he was a horndog back then who hung around with some bad characters and was pretty damn careless. I also don't see how you can go after Clinton or most of the folks on the List that were accused by the same woman of bad but not illegal behavior and say they were telling the truth about Clinton but not Trump and that's where this is headed.
You are talking about what Trump did years later after he had already fallen out with Epstein over a Real Estate deal in 2004. That doesn't make everything he did prior to 2004 go away.
There is no evidence of Trump doing anything illegal but there is a LOT of evidence Trump was spending a lot of time with Epstein and there are multiple women saying he was having sex while visiting Epstein's house. We don't have names or ages though and who knows if it is true but you have 2 Epstein accusers now saying so and that doesn't include the Prince Andrew girl who knew about Trump and Epstein spending time together but didn't know about anything sexual Trump was engaged in.
At least one of the women retracted her story but said it was because she had been threatened by Maxwell and feared for her safety and that of her family which is certainly believable.
Those are just the facts as they have been released in the last few days. It's going to be lots of fun when those women get put on 60 Minutes after Trump is the nominee.
I do not think Trump is a pedo. I don't think he did anything illegal. I do think he was a horndog back then who hung around with some bad characters and was pretty damn careless. I also don't see how you can go after Clinton or most of the folks on the List that were accused by the same woman of bad but not illegal behavior and say they were telling the truth about Clinton but not Trump and that's where this is headed.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:10 pm to Placekicker
Why are they dragging their collective feet? To protect Democracy?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 1:11 pm to aggressor
I am certain there are so many others to investigate. This focus on Trump is a mere distraction.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 2:55 pm to Placekicker
Politics make people stupid.
In this thread we're discussing documents that allege Epstein had videos of Clinton, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump and dudes are arguing how grotesque everyone else is for this but then making every possible excuse for 1 person on this list.
These politicians don't give 1 single frick about you all, and yet you blindly worship then and would do and say anything to defend them.
So many of you are sheep, it's embarrassing.
In this thread we're discussing documents that allege Epstein had videos of Clinton, Prince Andrew and Donald Trump and dudes are arguing how grotesque everyone else is for this but then making every possible excuse for 1 person on this list.
These politicians don't give 1 single frick about you all, and yet you blindly worship then and would do and say anything to defend them.
So many of you are sheep, it's embarrassing.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 3:21 pm to Placekicker
Either they release the tapes or STFU
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