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re: Conspiracies are OK if the "right" people / entities validate them (B Weinstein on Maher)

Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:16 am to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:16 am to
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For the military what is the difference if the attack is a big boom that kills thousands instantly or thousands slowly over a year? When do the generals step up and take away the investigative duties from people in the executive branch that are not loyal to this country?

This is a big problem. The administrative state under the executive branch (judicial and legislative branches too) has been infiltrated with people loyal to the CCP.


You sound like a conspiracy theorist...
Be "real"



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Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:16 am to
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I means war. It's a bigger attack on the U.S. than Pearl Harbor and 911 combined.


It wouldn’t necessarily mean war. It would, at the least, be the worst scientific error in the history of the world. That’s assuming an accidental release of it.
Posted by SheauxMeTheMoney
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:16 am to
Opinions of Bill aside, that was a great data driven, non-emaotional interview that every US citizen needs to watch. Thanks for the link.
This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 10:18 am
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:21 am to
when you spew bullshite 80% of the time its hard for people to take you serious. That's Bannon problem.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:24 am to
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You sound like a conspiracy theorist...
Be "real"


Eric Swalwell found to have an intimate relationship with a Chinese spy and continues to serve on the House Intelligence Committee. Nothing done.

Dian Feinstein found to have a Chinese spy as her driver for decades. Nothing done.

Mitch McConnell's wife's family owns a Chinese shipping company. No telling how much intel is released from the McConnells to China.

Fauci already mention in this thread with his relationship to the Wuhan lab.

And we can't forget about Joe Biden and his family.

This is just off the top of my head. The list of CCP compromised people in our government is long.

But it's a conspiracy theory. Let's keep fighting with each other about race and gender while the CCP takes over. frick.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:25 am to
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when you spew bullshite 80% of the time its hard for people to take you serious. That's Bannon problem.


This wasn’t Bannon. It was Maher, Heying and Weinstein. Back up and try again.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:27 am to
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GumboPot




I am not allowed to state openly what I think is going on because it anchors my threads

I will currently only bring what the ministry of truth puts out to this site

Be "calm"...

This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:30 am to
It wouldn’t shock me if Bret and Heather had no idea Steve Bannon has been talking about this. It’s just one hell of a coincidence there’s a viral lab 2 miles from the wet market where this theoretically started.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:30 am to
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I am not allowed to state openly what I think is going on because it anchors my threads

I will currently only bring what the ministry of truth puts out to this site

Be "calm"...


Can I get a hint? Does it involve PEADs?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:32 am to
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It wouldn’t shock me if Bret and Heather had no idea Steve Bannon has been talking about this.


Right. Bret and Heather are not watching The War Room with Stephen Bannon. If anything Bannon got his info from Bret.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:34 am to
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Weinstein gives it a 90% chance CV is manmade and came from the Wuhan lab. The question is, was CV intentionally released or accidentally released. We will never know but the release of CV was awfully convenient to hurt the Trump reelection campaign.


It wouldn’t shock me if China also invented a vaccine before releasing it and high members of the CCP were already immune to the disease because of it.

Also let’s not forget that getting Trump out of power wasn’t the only goal, but for them to strangle Hong Kong, Taiwan, and the South China Sea as well.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:41 am to
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For the military what is the difference if the attack is a big boom that kills thousands instantly or thousands slowly over a year? When do the generals step up and take away the investigative duties from people in the executive branch that are not loyal to this country?


Speaking of Maher, he actually defended Trump on calling this the China virus. And he did put it best: “ If they were selling nuclear suitcases at these wet markets, would we be so nonjudgmental? And isn’t that pretty much what they are selling? And the next one could be even worse. Viruses come from China like shortstops come from Dominican Republic. If the Chinese military purposefully infected this with corona, then we’ll be at war with them.”
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:44 am to
The entire purpose of the research at Wuhan is viral gain of function. Researchers were/are manipulating corona viruses and trying to mimic how they would get stronger in nature and how we could fight a strong corona virus before it infected the population. That is the benevolent explanation.

However we can't disregard the malevolent explanation. Biological warfare.


I forget the doctors name but it's a research doctor that came out early and proclaimed that CV-19 is a man made virus. His YT video was subsequently banned. He explained in molecular detail how CV-19 was cobbled together from existing viruses including HIV with existing corona viruses to make CV-19. I'm sure Bret and Heather know the same information.
Posted by illinitiger
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 10:52 am to
"Conspiracy Theory" is quickly becoming the new "nazi"
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:38 pm to
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I forget the doctors name but it's a research doctor that came out early and proclaimed that CV-19 is a man made virus. His YT video was subsequently banned. He explained in molecular detail how CV-19 was cobbled together from existing viruses including HIV with existing corona viruses to make CV-19. I'm sure Bret and Heather know the same information.



https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/nobel-prize-winner-claims-covid-was-manipulated-with-molecular-tools/89598301/

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Nobel prize winner claims covid was manipulated with molecular toolsPosted on 4/17/20 at 2:06 pm


https://www.gilmorehealth.com/chinese-coronavirus-is-a-man-made-virus-according-to-luc-montagnier-the-man-who-discovered-hiv/

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Chinese Coronavirus Is a Man Made Virus According to Luc Montagnier the Man Who Discovered HIVBy Robert Miller | Published on April 16, 2020
Reviewed By Gilmore Health | On: April 17, 2020


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Contrary to the narrative that is being pushed by the mainstream that the COVID 19 virus was the result of a natural mutation and that it was transmitted to humans from bats via pangolins, Dr Luc Montagnier the man who discovered the HIV virus back in 1983 disagrees and is saying that the virus was man made.


Dr Luc Montagnier Image Courtesy of Prolineserver
Professor Luc Montagnier, 2008 Nobel Prize winner for Medicine, claims that SARS-CoV-2 is a manipulated virus that was accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China. Chinese researchers are said to have used coronaviruses in their work to develop an AIDS vaccine. HIV DNA fragments are believed to have been found in the SARS-CoV-2 genome.


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We knew that the Chinese version of how the coronavirus emerged was increasingly under attack, but here’s a thesis that tells a completely different story about the Covid-19 pandemic, which is already responsible for more than 110,000 deaths worldwide. According to Professor Luc Montagnier, winner of the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2008 for “discovering” HIV as the cause of the AIDS epidemic together with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi, the SARS-CoV-2 is a virus that was manipulated and accidentally released from a laboratory in Wuhan, China, in the last quarter of 2019. According to Professor Montagnier, this laboratory, known for its work on coronaviruses, tried to use one of these viruses as a vector for HIV in the search for an AIDS vaccine!

“With my colleague, bio-mathematician Jean-Claude Perez, we carefully analyzed the description of the genome of this RNA virus,” explains Luc Montagnier, interviewed by Dr Jean-François Lemoine for the daily podcast at Pourquoi Docteur, adding that others have already explored this avenue: Indian researchers have already tried to publish the results of the analyses that showed that this coronavirus genome contained sequences of another virus, … the HIV virus (AIDS virus), but they were forced to withdraw their findings as the pressure from the mainstream was too great.




https://www.pourquoidocteur.fr/Articles/Question-d-actu/32184-EXCLUSIF-Pour-Pr-Montagnier-SARS-CoV-2-serait-virus-manipule-Chinois-l-ADN-de-VIH-podcast

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Covid-19
EXCLUSIF - Pour le Pr Montagnier, SARS-CoV-2 serait un virus manipulé par les Chinois avec de l'ADN de VIH ! (podcast)
Par la rédaction
Le coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 responsable de la pandémie de Covid-19 qui a déjà fait plus de 120 000 morts dans le monde serait un virus manipulé, sorti accidentellement d'un laboratoire chinois à la recherche d'un vaccin contre le SIDA. C'est l'incroyable révélation que le professeur Luc Montagnier, prix Nobel de médecine en 2008 pour la "découverte" du VIH, fait aujourd'hui à Pourquoi Docteur au micro du Dr Jean-François Lemoine.



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EXCLUSIVE - For Professor Montagnier, SARS-CoV-2 is a virus manipulated by the Chinese with HIV DNA! (podcast)
By the editorial staff
The SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus responsible for the Covid-19 pandemic which has already killed more than 120,000 people in the world is a manipulated virus, accidentally released from a Chinese laboratory in search of an AIDS vaccine. This is the incredible revelation that Professor Luc Montagnier, Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2008 for the "discovery" of HIV, made today to Pourquoi Docteur au micro du Dr Jean-François Lemoine.



I think this is the articlr that also contains the podcast in french:

LINK

Any french speakers who can confirm this for us? We would all greatly appreciate it.

viv_hopla
8h
French speaker here. Yes it is the podcast.

Basically he is saying his team looked at the virus ARN and discovered that its genome contains sequences of the HIV genome. An Indian team had already discovered that. They tried to publish an the article but had to retract it because it wasn't validated by China.

The interviewer asks : is it possible that it is a mutation that could have occurred in a HIV patient? He says no, such a modification has had to be done in the lab.

He then asks : were the chinese making a biological weapon or trying to make an HIV vaccine?

The professor answers that they may have been trying to make an HIV vaccine, using a coronavirus as "carrier". But at some point they fricked up and it escaped.

He says it's sad that you can't publish any paper not validated by China, it doesn't help the truth. He says China should admit they fricked up. Mistakes are human.

He also explains that the "non-natural" parts (added HIV sequences) of the covid genome tend to gradually disappear in the samples collected on more recent infected patients. He says nature is reharmonizing, the virus will attenua

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Snopes verified it, but left a *disclaimer

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/luc-montagnier-covid-created-lab/

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Did This Nobel Prize Winner Say COVID-19 Was Created in a Lab?
Keep in mind, the opinion of one person does not outweigh the consensus of the scientific community.
Dan Evon
Published 29 April 2020


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Claim
2008 Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier said that COVID-19 coronavirus disease was artificially created in a lab by biologists working on an AIDS vaccine.

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Correct Attribution


Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:07 pm to
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and have since whined about campus speech


I can't imagine a journalism professor in the country thirty five years ago (when I was taking journalism classes in college) passing a reporting assignment in which this phrase was used. Not only is it biased, subjective, and editiorializing but the very concept that a "journalist" would consider attempts to protect freedom of speech as "whining" would have been considered treasonous to the very profession.


In short the source is a burning garbarge barge and the writer of the piece a complete schmuck.
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