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re: Conservative influencers are the biggest problem for the GOP

Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 2:59 pm to
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By "grifter", do you mean someone who voices an opinion or says controversial things for money? Do mean someone who tries to shape the opinions of others? Do you mean someone like Rush Limbaugh? He was a big time conservative influencer.


It's one of many words that have lost their meanings, either by stupidity or intentionally.

A grifter is a con man or a swindler. When I started to see on-line "influencers" or social media voices being labeled as grifters, it seemed most of them were being accused of being fake - or taking on a persona and opinions that were not their own to make money in the online sphere.

But it is now being applied to ANYONE who is online spouting opinions, especially those that are very popular or have lots of followers, etc. Most of these people are in no way grifters, by any known definition.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:02 pm to
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How naïve do you have to be to think there's some sort of perfect good republican script that, if only everyone followed, Republicans would be painted in a positive light by the media

I have no idea, but that also has nothing to do with believing that the right’s internet “personalities” are collectively an obnoxious hinderance to good messaging.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:02 pm to
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Theyre creating narratives and telling you approved opinions. Most of its bullshite.


Crowder has been attacked by politicians, the MSM, and big tech. Who exactly is approving Crowder's opinion? Who is approving Tucker's opinion?

Please list the people that tell Crowder and Tucker what they can say since these 2 guys are running their own companies on platforms that are not currently known for censorship.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:03 pm to
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A grifter is a con man or a swindler. When I started to see on-line "influencers" or social media voices being labeled as grifters, it seem most of them were being accused of being fake - or taking on a persona and opinions that were not their own to make money in the online sphere. But it is now being applied to ANYONE who is online spouting opinions, especially those that are very popular or have lots of followers, etc. Most of these people are in no way grifters, by any known definition.

You’ve seen that because every single person who makes a living giving their opinions on the internet, or in media generally, is in fact a fake piece of shite.

Every single one of them are just saying whatever they thing will win them clicks and thus money.

Hasn’t everyone always known that?
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 3:04 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22320 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:08 pm to
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They make the GOP look like idiots it’s nothing but grifters who try to say the most shocking things and are 24/7 outraged.
Define Grifter. Is that someone who doesn't agree with you and has the courage to say and do what really needs to be done - without fear of being blackballed from "the club"??
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:11 pm to
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Define Grifter.

Someone who spouts bullshite they either know to be total bullshite or don’t actually believe on the internet with the sole intention of making themselves more money or obtain more attention.

That accounts for about 90% of political blue checks on both sides.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:13 pm to
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quote:
Define Grifter.

Someone who spouts bullshite they either know to be total bullshite or don’t actually believe on the internet with the sole intention of making themselves more money or obtain more attention


To be fair, Tucker has admitted to the above while working for Fox News.

He is free from that managerial control right now. But he has explicitly admitted to repeating things on air that he knew was false.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:22 pm to
The test is simple: if an individual is giving their “opinion” and their personal income or worth is substantially tied to the amount of clicks or views their opinion gets, they aren’t worth paying attention to.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 3:23 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:23 pm to
Yup Shapiro is the worst of them
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22320 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Someone who spouts bullshite they either know to be total bullshite or don’t actually believe on the internet with the sole intention of making themselves more money or obtain more attention
I'm sure Jordan Peterson, Victor Davis Hanson, and anyone else who advocates for self-discipline, the rule of law, and adherence to the constitution would also fit nicely into the Grifter category.

Ever notice that Grifters are Grifters until they're vindicated?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26809 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:26 pm to
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You’ve seen that because every single person who makes a living giving their opinions on the internet, or in media generally, is in fact a fake piece of shite.

Every single one of them are just saying whatever they thing will win them clicks and thus money.

Hasn’t everyone always known that?


I think dealing in absolutes is always stupid.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26437 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 3:29 pm to
Perhaps. But I have no patience for pundits or blue checks or influencers.

Total drain on society in every field they exist in.
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
548 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:09 pm to
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
1901 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:15 pm to
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They make the GOP look like idiots


The MAGA crowd who call anyone who doesn’t think Trump is the best thing ever for the party “Ron-bots” are the worst thing for the GOP. They literally want to destroy and polarize the Republican Party and then they wonder why Biden has a chance in this election.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28079 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:41 pm to
grifters and race hustlers

for every libtard race hustler, you have the rights, candace owens.

ying and yangs for the parties
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80287 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 4:59 pm to
The GOP has been the worst thing for the GOP for over 30 years.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6207 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:00 pm to
If someone on tv or the internet influences you, you are weak.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21443 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:01 pm to
Only influencers the democrats have are comedians from what I can see.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260877 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:02 pm to
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The MAGA crowd who call anyone who doesn’t think Trump is the best thing ever for the party “Ron-bots” are the worst thing for the GOP. They literally want to destroy and polarize the Republican Party and then they wonder why Biden has a chance in this election.


This man gets it.

Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5016 posts
Posted on 3/27/24 at 5:55 pm to
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have said it before and I'll say it again, this place has turned into a flaming pile of shite in the last 4 years


LOL

Grigio
Registered on: 5/22/23

quote:

Where did all the posters who no longer post here run off to? I want to join that board.


Likely still here, but under different names, like you .

ETA I do agree with the main point of your post
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 5:59 pm
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