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Connect the dots. Cheney apoplexies, NSD of the FBI, Patriot Act and Trump.

Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:56 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:56 am
Dick Cheney is the master mind behind the Patriot Act. It was sold to the American people as a way to help the FBI keep American people safe from terrorism after 911. Never mind the fact that Bill Clinton and the FBI had several chances to prevent 911 by taking out OBL...but that's for another thread.

Under the Patriot Act the National Security Division of the FBI is formed. This is the division of the FBI that acquires FISA warrants and is currently under ZERO oversight. Before Donald Trump it was always assumed that the NSD of the FBI would be under the Office of Inspector General oversight but under Eric Holder he commissioned his deputy Sally Yates to write a 57 page letter to the Inspector General explaining why the National Security Division of the FBI is not subject to oversight. With no push back the Inspector General Horwitz said, okay.

Congress could reign in the NSD of the FBI but they don't because they are currently being used as a political tool for the Democrat Party against Trump and Trump supporters and the Democrats control congress. It's possible the NSD of the FBI gets reigned in under new Republican leadership in congress but I doubt it.

But this little cabal of unaccountable bureaucrats has it out for Donald Trump and I still don't clearly see why. The NSD of the FBI is not worried about borders, trade and war like Wall Street and most never Trumpers and I don't believe Trump was ever a threat to dismantle the NSD of the FBI or the Patriot Act.

But the apoplexy in the Cheney family makes me think Donald Trump is a threat to the Cheney family arch accomplishment, the Patriot Act.

Something else in going on in the national security front. There has to be a reason the Cheneys and many in the IC are after Trump. From the Cheneys and the IC perspectives maybe another Trump presidency is a threat to the Patriot Act. (Everyone else against Trump are being led by the nose and are against him for other various reasons).
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:07 am
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:58 am to
Trump is a threat to the MIC’s blood money. I suspect that is at the top of the list of the reasons they hate him.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:01 am to
It's probably that simple.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98469 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:04 am to
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Under the Patriot Act the National Security Division of the FBI is formed along with the FISA courts.


I think FISA courts have been around since Carter.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6680 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:05 am to
yep!

they (Cheney GOP and the media) are raising up Liz for this purpose. There is no other reason to give her this much attention. She just lost an election.

They are also hoping she'll siphon off some "moderate" republicans to vote for dems.

It's all a game.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:06 am to
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I think FISA courts have been around since Carter.


You are right. I misremembered.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53025 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:13 am to
In terms of systemic intelligence agency problems and dysfunction, former CIA agent Larry Johnson had some good background yesterday about why that organization is a mess.
Understanding why current CIA analysis generally is useless.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:14 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118666 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:18 am to
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4715 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:25 am to
You never heard a peep about her now she is in every other news article.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
10887 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:48 am to
quote:

But this little cabal of unaccountable bureaucrats has it out for Donald Trump and I still don't clearly see why.


If you pay the madam enough you can do what you want.

The question is what does the john(s) want.

It's not just America.
Posted by delta_zulu
Middle TN
Member since Jul 2021
232 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:00 am to
That was a great read. Lots of good comments too.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64195 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:01 am to
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: Connect the dots. Cheney apoplexies, NSD of the FBI, Patriot Act and Trump.Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:58 am to GumboPot
Trump is a threat to the MIC’s blood money
Trump is a threat to the IC
Trump is a threat to the Dept of State and the back flow of money(foreign aid) to DC
Trump is a threat to the real truth of Epstein Isle
Trump is a threat to the uncovering of UAP's and its tech



Trump is a threat to lead the tar and feathering of most in DC.
Posted by DiogenesLamp
Pensacola
Member since Jun 2021
60 posts
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:26 am to
He should have vetoed the extension, but he was duped into signing it by Barr.
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