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re: Confederate general who headed the Ku Klux Klan is exhumed along with his wife
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:23 am to DemonKA3268
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:23 am to DemonKA3268
I agree with the concern about incrementalism but if we don’t fix kids being corrupted they aren’t likely to avoid buying into the bullshite once they are older
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:25 am to ChineseBandit58
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“After only a year as Grand Wizard, in January 1869, faced with an ungovernable membership employing methods that seemed increasingly counterproductive, Forrest issued KKK General Order Number One: “It is therefore ordered and decreed, that the masks and costumes of this Order be entirely abolished and destroyed.” By the end of his life, Forrest’s racial attitudes would evolve — in 1875, he advocated for the admission of blacks into law school — and he lived to fully renounce his involvement with the all-but-vanished Klan.”
Sounds like this old fricker...
Someone grab a shovel.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:25 am to Hoops
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I agree with the concern about incrementalism but if we don’t fix kids being corrupted they aren’t likely to avoid buying into the bull shite once they are older
That's why this specific issue is relevant. It's only going to get worse if stuff like this is allowed to happen.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:27 am to Hoops
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Don’t we judge people against their peers?
Apparently, you don't.
Same as always, harsh standards for those you don't agree with while moving the goalposts to preserve those you do agree with. It's the same play over and over.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:29 am to Hoops
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I agree with the concern about incrementalism but if we don’t fix kids being corrupted they aren’t likely to avoid buying into the bullshite once they are older
It's not an either/or proposition, though. We can walk AND chew gum at the same time. You can oppose CRT and the march of leftist ideology in schools AND oppose this move to dig up the body of a guy who did some things which you may have disliked 150 years ago. In fact, I see them as the same fight, so to only be concerned with one aspect is just allowing yourself to be outflanked.
At some point, we need to come to grips with the fact that each individual act is not the end goal...the end goal is total acceptance of their edicts and living by their rules. ALL of these things must be fought against with the same fervor as they demand we accept them.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:29 am to GeauxTigerTM
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The important thing, and the thing which you ought to acknowledge if you've been paying attention at all the last 18 months, is that this is simply the next step in the incremental removal of ANYTHING progressives don't like. By continuing to acquiesce to these demands, they grow bolder and bolder and, as they say, eventually they will get to a thing about which you DO care, and by then it may be too late t
This!
Does anybody remember Trump saying, “it’ll be more than just confederate statues” and he was mocked by the left. They’ve moved from Confederate statues to the founding fathers, TV shows, movies, renaming of military bases, renaming of streets/schools, kids cartoons and now removing bodies from a cemetery.
You keep the attitude of “it’s a minor thing and not all that important” they’ll keep pushing it.
Reminds me of a scene from Jaws where the Mayor keeps ignoring the warnings and people getting eaten. Hooper finally loses it and says, “you’re gonna keep ignoring it until it swims up and bites you in the arse”
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:35 am to bstew3006
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Does anybody remember Trump saying, “it’ll be more than just confederate statues” and he was mocked by the left. They’ve moved from Confederate statues to the founding fathers, TV shows, movies, renaming of military bases, renaming of streets/schools, kids cartoons and now removing bodies from a cemetery.
You guys may appreciate this guy's take on this basic issue...why the past matters.
Why the Past Matters
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:36 am to LuckyTiger
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Do we need to give a frick about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson? They owned slaves, you know. Hundreds of them. Isn’t owning slaves morally unacceptable today? Why should they be honored in graves and tombs that are open to the public? Why are there homes preserved and memorialized?
On a college visit in 2018, the college FOUNDED by Thomas Jefferson had the statue of him covered in a black shroud. That's right. The woke jacklegs of UVA covered up the statue of the man who created the school they work at and attend so as not to offend anyone. I was appalled, and quite happy my kid went elsewhere, though UNC-Chapel Hill isn't much better on the woke scale.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:38 am to PsychTiger
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Keep the streets named after MLK. They help you know what areas to either avoid or obtain drugs.
And STOLEN GUNS
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:42 am to HeadSlash
FDR persecuted hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans. When can we dig his body up?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:49 am to conservativewifeymom
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Shelby County Commissioner Tami Sawyer
She's trying to force Memphis out into the suburbs as well. She and the Shelby County Commission are forcing an "affordable" development right outside of Collierville in the county that Collierville itself kept shooting down. Never mind who is going to supply water, electric, fire or which schools the kids are going to go to...
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:28 am to ronricks
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Curious what the response will be in 2027 if this is confirmed to be true? For sure statues must come down and streets renamed? Right?
MLK
If they are tearing down Lincoln statues then eventually they will get around to MLK. In the meantime they will just rewrite history.
One of my favorite paradoxes is how Latinos have tried to embrace Cesar Chavez as their own MLK. The funny thing is that Chavez was a ferocious opponent of illegal immigration and wanted to limit immigration in general from Mexico. He was a Marxist/Socialist but he understood that in order to have Union power you had to control the supply of labor (farm workers in California) and if you allowed folks to come from Mexico and work for cheap he would have no power.
At A&M of course they have been going after Sul Ross which is beyond sad. Ross was a Confederate General but he never owned a slave. He adopted an Indian boy as his son who was orphaned from a battle he fought in. He was the person most responsible for creating Prairie View A&M when many didn't want any higher education for blacks at the time. He had many blacks of his time that praised him and honored him.
Ross may well be the finest man Texas ever produced and yet the woke mob would love to tear down everything about him for the crime of fighting for the State he loved. His biography is truly amazing and he exemplified the words on his statue "Soldier, Statesman, Knightly Gentleman" in every way.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:35 am to IAmNERD
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Same as always, harsh standards for those you don't agree with while moving the goalposts to preserve those you do agree with. It's the same play over and over.
The PoliTalk board in a nutshell.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:38 am to conservativewifeymom
That's embarrassing.
When Harrington stole the mayor's race, that's the moment Memphis was done.
When Harrington stole the mayor's race, that's the moment Memphis was done.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:38 am to conservativewifeymom
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Nathan Bedford Forrest
They forgot to mention that NBF was also a major player in the democrat party.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:48 am to conservativewifeymom
Wasn’t he buried on his own land that he gave to the city to make the park out of? Could be wrong but I thought I had read that somewhere.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:50 am to conservativewifeymom
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The bodies of General Nathan Bedford Forrest, notorious for the massacre of 300 black Union soldiers after they surrendered, and his wife are being moved to a museum 200 miles away.
Well, this is demonstrably false. Forrest was exonerated for Ft Pillow, by a partisan union commission.
Forrest was also outspoken about improving race relations, giving many speeches in his retirement.
He was the finest of the Confederates, and one of the greatest military minds this country has ever produced. Had Davis listened to him instead of Lee, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 9:51 am to conservativewifeymom
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A lone demonstrator waving a Confederate flag and singing Dixie taunted Shelby County Commissioner Tami Sawyer
Dumb shite like this just feeds the “racist redneck” narrative.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:03 am to ronricks
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Curious what the response will be in 2027 if this is confirmed to be true?
I'm sure this is true. I have watched Maury!
Posted on 6/3/21 at 10:04 am to Bourre
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When you don’t stand up to the mob, the mob will keep taking until there is nothing left
That's is right there.
Yet, we are all sitting on our hands......
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