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re: Comey Admits He Knew Democrats Financed ‘Pee’ Dossier Before FISA Warrant Signoff
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:21 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:21 pm to BBONDS25
Fair enough. It’s been awhile since I’ve read the memo and what was not redacted. I’m worried it’ll never get declassified and released and we’ll have this controversy forever
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:24 pm to boosiebadazz
I would love to see the entire thing. If they fully disclosed I’ll gladly admit it. I would love to be wrong about the Justice dept being abused. I hope guys like Decatur would be equally appalled if it is found the process was abused.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:24 pm to BBONDS25
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They cite an individual who may want to discredit the trump campaign as the source. They Knew who it was. They didn’t disclose.
This is why I was thinking some of you just have a problem with standard minimization procedures. They aren't going to put his real name in the apps. For the same reason we see references to Candidate #1 (aka Individual #1) and Candidate #2.
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They also state that they believe he info in the dossier was accurate based upon Steele’s prior work.
He does have a pretty good track record. He's the real deal.
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They were the ones leaking to the media. They then cite those media reports as corroborating evidence.
What they did was use Page's published denials of the allegations in a section titled "Page's Denial of Cooperation with the Russian Government to Influence the 2016 Presidential Election". They used Page's own words to establish that.
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They also failed to fully disclose page’s role for the fbi.
They disclosed his previous interviews in the unredacted part. I'm not sure what you are expecting to see there.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:25 pm to boosiebadazz
So they knew the dossier was truly unverified, falsely verified against itself via leaks, and financed by political opposition. You don't think any of that information should have been brought before the court?
They even go as far as to explained away Steele's reliability problems as an FBI source, perhaps knowing he leaked again to create a verification for his own report.
They even go as far as to explained away Steele's reliability problems as an FBI source, perhaps knowing he leaked again to create a verification for his own report.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:32 pm to Vacherie Saint
Ive answered a lot of those questions in the preceding pages
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:35 pm to CptBengal
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he should be in jail for that.
Like right now. the marshals should have been waiting to arrest him right outside the chambers.
Sessions was MIA. What is the temp AG doing? Nothing?
He needs to send the marshals for Comey tonight. He needs to arrest Rosy and Muller too.
Muller knew the dossier was fake, but he started an investigation with fraudulent evidence any way. That is another crime.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:44 pm to boosiebadazz
You've acknowledged the political client angle. It's a non-starter for me too, so none of the other legal gymnastics make much sense beyond that.
It seems like you're trying to have it both ways.
It seems like you're trying to have it both ways.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:47 pm to Decatur
I’m not sure what part of full disclosure you are failing to grasp. It is very telling you refuse to answer my question of whether you would admit they failed to fulfill their duty if they did fail to fully disclose. Clearly your mind Is made up and no amount of evidence to the contrary will sway you. You should apply to the fbi. 
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:58 pm to BBONDS25
What I find humorous in decatur’s Word games is he is making the assumption that the process was not corrupted and manipulated and that following procedures clears those involved. The entire premise behind the FISA warrant was corrupted by very high level bureaucrats and everything that happened after that is null and void whether the FBI, DOJ and FISA judges correctly followed procedure or not.
Lynch, Comey et al had marching orders and they followed them. This has really just begun.
Lynch, Comey et al had marching orders and they followed them. This has really just begun.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:59 pm to BBONDS25
Just so I understand the problem you have with it is that actual human source and U.S. person names are not included in the apps. Is that correct?
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:02 pm to Decatur
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Just so I understand the problem you have with it is that actual human source and U.S. person names are not included in the apps. Is that correct?
Good lord. My posts speak for themselves. You can re-read them if you’re confused. If you think they fully disclosed, great. You started out by saying they didn’t even have to do that. I won’t ask you for a fifth time to prove you aren’t a partisan hack. Your position is clear. We all get it. Even if it is shown full disclosure was not given...you are good with it. Have a good night.
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:04 pm to BBONDS25
Irony is Decatur making arguments now that conservatives on the PT made during the height of the Patriot Act days with lefties going nuts over potential unlawful surveillance and 4th Amendment violations
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:15 pm to Decatur
Schiff said the fisa court knew the dossier was politically backed, now both Ohr and Comey admitted that they were mislead. Who is lying?
And why did the fbi tell the fisa court in Sept of 16, and on three more occasions that Steele was NOT the source of the Issikoff article when they knew he was?
They clearly lied to the fisa court. They are admitting to it.
And why did the fbi tell the fisa court in Sept of 16, and on three more occasions that Steele was NOT the source of the Issikoff article when they knew he was?
They clearly lied to the fisa court. They are admitting to it.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:15 pm to BBONDS25
I'm really just trying to understand what you mean by "full disclosure". Wondering if you aren't considering the minimization requirements.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:22 pm to Decatur
I am trying to understand why you refuse to admit the process was corrupted
What do you have to gain by defending this hill?
This is about as unAmerican as the DOJ can possibly be
What do you have to gain by defending this hill?
This is about as unAmerican as the DOJ can possibly be
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:26 pm to supatigah
Right. Pretty much everyone involved has admitted to misleading the fisa court. Decatur calls this "minimization requirements".
Posted on 12/10/18 at 10:30 pm to Vacherie Saint
Imagine if the roles were reversed and a Rep POTUS did this to the DNC front runner
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:32 pm to BBONDS25
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If you think they fully disclosed, great. You started out by saying they didn’t even has to do dat.
You post assuming full disclosure is the standard on FISA warrants, without any support. Also, all is required is that the government demonstrates probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power. That is the sole question in the decision as to whether the warrant should be issued.
The questions raised about the Dossier are just misdirection. As to probable cause that Page was acting as an agent, the pertinent part of the Dossier was that Page visited Moscow in 2016. However, that fact was know separately from the Dossier, since FBI informant Halper had met with Page when Page came back from the Moscow meeting.
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:33 pm to boosiebadazz
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What’s their description of Page?
That Page WAS ACTIVELY acting as an agent of a “hostile” foreign power- and their “corroborating” evidence were the meetings THEY STAGED with random professors/ former IC agents, etc. along with some made up bullshite from Steele.
But nothing in there about Pages work as a UCI for them less than a year earlier.
Pretty Convenient, huh?!
Posted on 12/10/18 at 11:39 pm to Jjdoc
Steele should testify before the American people
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